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Watch live on BBC or Sky depending which it is on. 36 32.73%
Watch only BBC live or delayed/highlights. 48 43.64%
Watch only BBC live (live or not bother). 16 14.55%
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Old 16 Jan 2012, 14:35 (Ref:3012338)   #1476
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I read recently that the BBC tried to get Eddie Irvine to join them. That would have given a definite 'edge' to their offering.
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Well he'd have plenty to say. Nothing worthwhile, but hey that isn't the style nowadays is it. It would stop me watching the build up.
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What irks me so much about all of this is that the overpaid and over-resourced BBC management are using public funds to do all the above and [from what I can see so far] are answerable to nobody.
You read a lot about how they are overpaid etc... I see a BBC that provides fantastic diversity and great quality. For not that much. Great job.

Could it be better, of course it could. Although when assessing you have to be careful not to just consider what could be better for yourself. However, IMHO, there is more danger in a radical shake up. Risk and reward. The BBC is almost there, no great change needed.
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Old 16 Jan 2012, 15:00 (Ref:3012344)   #1478
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You read a lot about how they are overpaid etc... I see a BBC that provides fantastic diversity and great quality. For not that much. Great job.

Could it be better, of course it could. Although when assessing you have to be careful not to just consider what could be better for yourself. However, IMHO, there is more danger in a radical shake up. Risk and reward. The BBC is almost there, no great change needed.
That's certainly one opinion on the situation. Clearly one that I, and many others, wouldn't agree with however. Unfortunately we're unable to vote with our wallets on the matter.
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Old 16 Jan 2012, 16:18 (Ref:3012390)   #1479
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I hear that Virgin subscribers are now able to get the Sky F1 channel with their Sky sports package.

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Old 16 Jan 2012, 16:31 (Ref:3012395)   #1480
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To be fair to the Beeb, when they negotiated for the contract, they didn't know that the government was going to cut back its budget by £66 million or whatever the figure is.
was it not also negotiated before the full fail scale of the economy was occuring? perhaps they were counting on higher revenues from selling on rights and so on that simply didn't materialise.

i don't think we can blame auntie for outbidding itself. not considering what's happened to both the sport and the global economy since. such is life, there's plenty of other things to get riled up about.
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To be fair to the Beeb, they should be prudent with their expenditure as any commercially run organization would have to be... !
As with all tax-like things it wouldn't work if you could. I disagree with a lot of things that my tax is spent on. I don't use most of it either. But voting with my wallet isn't, and shouldn't be, an option. Annoying, isn't it!?

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As with all tax-like things it wouldn't work if you could. I disagree with a lot of things that my tax is spent on. I don't use most of it either. But voting with my wallet isn't, and shouldn't be, an option. Annoying, isn't it!?

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Probably best to do it there at some stage. You and I always seem to end up on opposite sites of the great BBC debate
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Damon Hill is to be part of the Sky team. He will be on hand to give insight into the practice sessions, qualifying and the race itself. Very good news indeed.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97055
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Old 17 Jan 2012, 11:10 (Ref:3012775)   #1484
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Only on the races the BBC won't be showing live (apart from Silverstone)...

Will this make the audience sway over to Sky?
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Skysports F1 apparently filming something with Alice Powell today as well according to Keith Huewen's twitter
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Only on the races the BBC won't be showing live (apart from Silverstone)...

Will this make the audience sway over to Sky?
I highly doubt many will be swayed into digging deeper into their pockets because Damon has joined Sky for some of the season. He did pieces for the BBC in the past and although it was nice to have have as a guest, he didn't bring anything extra special IMO. He too thinks the deal is fantastic for the fans, but its puzzling why all the celebs, ex drivers, and broadcasters think its fantastic, yet the majority of the fans don't even at this late stage? Do they know something we don't?
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yet the majority of the fans don't even at this late stage? Do they know something we don't?
Depends if you have Sky as to wether you think its a fantastic deal

I'm not sure a little poll on a motorsport forum could form a majority opinion.
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I think you're either a Sky F1 man or you're not given the money involved.

I doubt if Sky promised to channel Fangio at a Sky seance it would be enough to get people to part with that type of cash if you weren't willing to do so in the first place.
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Depends if you have Sky as to wether you think its a fantastic deal

I'm not sure a little poll on a motorsport forum could form a majority opinion.
I think the level of negative coverage the deal has had in the press combined with the proposed viewing figures from Sky suggest a significant majority of fans will only be watching the BBC, so I think that speaks for itself in terms of a majority opinion.

I'm sure some people with access to Sky like myself are still considering the damage this deal will have on the interest level in the UK regardless of the fact others in the same boat are selfish with the notion they have it, so sod everyone else.
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I've always thought that whilst it was a good idea to get the debate started early, the poll itself was premature because we didn't know all the facts.

It would be interesting to have another now that that we do.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97055
Damon! I'm going to cancel sky and resubscribe this is such good news. Damon being on has forced me to do this.

What?!

He was on the old F1digital+ and was very good. As well as the studio comment they offered an alternate commentary team with Damon as part of it. It was a more relax chatty type affair. Very good too. Of course you had to not listen to Ben for that.
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Oh dear, not sure Damon was a good edition to the team. He was incredibly dull when he attempted to cover for Brundle a couple of years ago at the Hungarian GP (I think). Obviously this is a different role, but not convinced his voice is made for TV. I could change my mind of course.
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Oh dear, not sure Damon was a good edition to the team. He was incredibly dull when he attempted to cover for Brundle a couple of years ago at the Hungarian GP (I think). Obviously this is a different role, but not convinced his voice is made for TV. I could change my mind of course.
He's not doing commentary/summariser work though is he? He's doing the magazine and comment style stuff.....
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I hear that Virgin subscribers are now able to get the Sky F1 channel with their Sky sports package.

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Yes they can. For £22.50 a month extra on top of what they pay now - and they'll only get standard definition.

£270 for 10 races in SD on top of the free to view HD races on the BBC. I'd rather skip some of the more boring circuits and go watch the races live.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/97055
I like Damon very much and normally I would be as enthusiastic as everyone else about this. But the other day I watched an interview he did with Peter Windsor on The Flying Lap. I was expecting him to be good, but was disappointed. It may be that he doesn't like Windsor, but if that's the case he shouldn't have agreed to go on the show.

He was very softly spoken, so much so that the mike was almost in his face. He seemed to think before every reply, whereas on TV he will need think on his feet more and be positive. I hope it works out, because I like him as I say, but I'm wondering.
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I watched that as well Strider. Unfortunately most of the time the audio is rubbish, and dear old Peter has a tendency to interrupt all the time..

I think Damon will be fine, he is very articulate and quite knowledgeable, I thought the interview was pretty good..
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I doubt if Sky promised to channel Fangio at a Sky seance it would be enough to get people to part with that type of cash if you weren't willing to do so in the first place.

That had me in stitches, bravo!

However the news that Damons going to be part of it seriously makes me reconsider. I was going to ditch my Sky account in feb/march and just get Eurosport player rather than stump up another ten pounds a month, but Damon is such a superb person to listen to its almost worth the money, he has all his Fathers dry wit but in a more quietly spoken package and I for one cant get enough of it. He is also a thoroughly decent human being, and the complete anithesis to EJ. Then again theres alway all the illegal streams on the Internet, I am sure people will go out of their way to provide the streams. Are Radio5 definately going to provide live, full coverage for every race?
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Yeah. But that means having listen to James Allen............
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Yeah. But that means having listen to James Allen............
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