NZV8's 2011/12

[DX20VT]

Originally Posted by Biggy G

Entry Lists are on the NZV8 website, 11 for Teretonga, where Malcolm Budd will join the fun.

On the same weekend, the first of the TRS rounds with 20 cars lined up to compete! Can't wait, anyone know if they get same day coverage?

25 cars in Production GT should make good racing too.

[KRDG]

37 F5000's for the last two weekends of January at the NZFMR BMW.

That is 'a grid' and adds up in history, dollars on view, HP or speed, plus a few names and they will break the 60s mark at HD with any luck.

This is something to watch and promote.

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by KRDG

37 F5000's for the last two weekends of January at the NZFMR BMW.

That is 'a grid' and adds up in history, dollars on view, HP or speed, plus a few names and they will break the 60s mark at HD with any luck.

This is something to watch and promote.

damn straight. would be there like a fly on fresh dogsh!t if it wasn't for the dirty ditch between.

25+ is a grid even if they are Sunday drivers, at least the track is busy.

my original thoughts on the Porsche series was a bunch of Sunday drivers with their wicker baskets, until they got decent cars/drivers on the grid!!

[Icarus_nz]

Originally Posted by smokin'joe

25+ is a grid even if they are Sunday drivers, at least the track is busy.

Yerp! Ha Ha. Like the Festival of Speed Events - Beautiful Cars Driven Badly...

Still good on them for getting out and having some fun.

[promax]

Originally Posted by Jerico

So what is your angle here Promax? Every Icarus nz post you have something pointed to say. A one liner like nearly all your posts.

I think Icarus nz is a little To sharp for you. When it comes to posts it's not the quantity it's the quality. All this sniping is getting a little old.
But it maybe to hard to teach an old dog a new trick so you just keep doing what you know and what you are good at? Time will tell!

he responded to my comment.. and i responded to his comment to me

is that not okay Jerico?

[promax]

Originally Posted by KRDG

37 F5000's for the last two weekends of January at the NZFMR BMW.

That is 'a grid' and adds up in history, dollars on view, HP or speed, plus a few names and they will break the 60s mark at HD with any luck.

This is something to watch and promote.

you forgot to mention the sound they make

[Biggy G]

Chassis #2 from MRX, anyone know who it's for?

[on_to_it]

I haven't heard a thing. What I would like to know is whether Chassis No1 has had much testing since Bargs tried it out before Christmas, and if it has proven itself as a top-notch race car (or not).

Or is this a 2nd iteration with modifications deemed necessary after testing No1.

If you look at V8Supertourers way of approaching this, they built more than one chassis and did thousands of laps of testing before they got to the actual "production" version. Those prototypes will not be sold as race cars.

[on_to_it]

Further to my last post, I would to ask an open question. Why would anyone commit to one of these new chassis until they have been proven and acknowledged as a quality piece of kit?

[Mr Revhead]

Faith.
They have faith in the people involved.
Also, it doesn't matter. If the cars are all the same then it doesn't matter.

[on_to_it]

It depends on your perspective Mr R.

If you're sitting in the stand and just watching, then it wouldn't matter to you.

But if you're evaluating the purchase of one and intend being very hands-on, I believe the quality of the chassis is very important. I thought Icarus put it well when he said (slightly edited);

"Believe it or not, in a spec class it is even more critical.

If a chassis is flexing, with every cycle the stiffness reduces. Teams end up chasing the car because previous setups no longer work. Ever harder springs get thrown in and the dampers have no influence. The car is unbalanced most of the time and burns tyres. More testing is required (on mismatched tyres) and so the vicious cycle continues. The easiest answer is to have a chassis which is as stiff as possible.

Have a torsional test and bend test been performed to establish baseline figures?

If I was buying one this would be an important question before shelling out"

That say's it all really!

[Mr Revhead]

Yes. I agree.

However the chances of that being the case are pretty damn slim!

[promax]

Originally Posted by on_to_it

I haven't heard a thing. What I would like to know is whether Chassis No1 has had much testing since Bargs tried it out before Christmas, and if it has proven itself as a top-notch race car (or not).

Or is this a 2nd iteration with modifications deemed necessary after testing No1.

If you look at V8Supertourers way of approaching this, they built more than one chassis and did thousands of laps of testing before they got to the actual "production" version. Those prototypes will not be sold as race cars.

more than one was built the 1st chassis or 'Mule' chassis is the one on trademe.. the 2nd chassis (with changes) is the new McKenzie FG.

there's plently of time for testing.. between now and the start of next season.. 10 months away.

[on_to_it]

Thanks promax. I was aware of the 'mule' on TM, but I wondered if they might have made more changes again. I think V8ST got to No3 before they were completely happy.

So where's all the spin on the McKenzie car? What they've done in testing, how successful everything has been...you know the sort of things I mean.

I'm not taking the mickey, I really would like to hear something.

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by on_to_it

So where's all the spin on the McKenzie car? What they've done in testing, how successful everything has been...you know the sort of things I mean.

I'm not taking the mickey, I really would like to hear something.

if the 'slippery outlaw' is heavily involved, there won't too much to much positive to report.

[on_to_it]

This should have a good story to it - the slippery who?

[promax]

interesting, MRX have started building chassis #3

daily progress of the build will be posted on their youtube page

[Icarus_nz]

Who are the two drivers out of Dunedin helping fill the grid this weekend? What have they done before and whose cars are they using?

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

Who are the two drivers out of Dunedin helping fill the grid this weekend? What have they done before and whose cars are they using?

maybe one of the "slippery outlaw's"' former customers, and the young fella (foget his name) Whelan that raced last year, or the one before?

[on_to_it]

I've never heard of either of them. Could they have been asked to make up numbers perhaps

smokin'joe - The other fella's name was John.

[promax]

Ross Cameron not only raced at the Ruapuna round.. he was a confirmed driver at the start of the season. Cameron has competed in OSCA, Formula Ford, Formula Atlantic, HQ, RX7, V8 Development Series and NZGT.

[FIRE]

Originally Posted by promax

interesting, MRX have started building chassis #3

daily progress of the build will be posted on their youtube page

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHZcO...d6u79g5imEHzgm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcvXp...eature=related

[Icarus_nz]

OK so Ross Cameron - what car is that he is driving?

Anyone know anything about Malcomn Budd? What's he done? What chassis is he driving?

The 'Slippery Outlaw' wouldn't be a ChCh based team owner would it?
Also known as IBM or something like that.

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by Icarus_nz

The 'Slippery Outlaw' wouldn't be a ChCh based team owner would it?
Also known as IBM or something like that.

nope, gave a pretty good hint .

[promax]

Statement from Shayne Harris, President, MSNZ - (14/01/2012)

The New Zealand V8s championship is being contested by the current Schedule TL Holden and Ford V8s this season (2011-12) and in 2012-13, with the new car being transitioned into competition in that season too.


This is the undertaking given to NZV8s franchise holders at the commencement of the new car programme.

There is a clear pathway for current Schedule TL NZV8s and there will continue to be racing opportunities into the future. The statement by SuperTourers that they plan to set up a new competition because there is nowhere for the current championship cars to race in the future is incorrect. If anything, SuperTourers are trying to undermine the very championship in which many of the country’s top saloon car drivers made their name.

In the 2013-14 season the NZV8s championship will be contested by the new space frame championship car and the Schedule TL cars will race for a special trophy within the NZV8s category alongside the new car.

The current championship cars are built and homologated to MotorSport New Zealand Schedule TL specification and may only race in championship events and such other events as are agreed between NZV8s Ltd and MotorSport New Zealand. MotorSport New Zealand owns the intellectual property of Schedule TL.

Recognising that Schedule TL cars are now using old technology, the new NZV8s championship car, which will be powered by Ford or Holden engines and fitted with appropriate bodies according to competitor’s choice, has been developed.

A new technical specification schedule will be prepared by MotorSport New Zealand when the final testing of new engines, sequential transmission and other technologies is complete.

When the new NZV8s championship car is tested ready for racing, competitors will be invited to purchase them. They are expected to cost approximately $150,000 in ready to race form. MSNZ owns the designs and jigs for the new car and will not release them for sale until satisfied they are ready for competition.

Owners of cars with Schedule TL logbooks have been advised that if they wish to race their cars outside the NZV8s championships or other events agreed by MSNZ and NZV8s Ltd, then they need to apply for a Schedule A logbook and compete in events with racing permits for Schedule A racing.