2014 SCCA World Challenge - Page 24

Lagunaseca_4life · 1 Jun 2014, 15:07 (Ref:3413760)

I guess no stream for today's race.bummer

Cheyne · 1 Jun 2014, 15:18 (Ref:3413764)

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Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

I guess no stream for today's race.bummer

Watching it right now full screen.

http://www.world-challengetv.com

Lagunaseca_4life · 1 Jun 2014, 15:52 (Ref:3413779)

Yea the stream came back for me a few minutes after that post.sucks to Finnish under caution but that's street racing.

ttdriver2009 · 1 Jun 2014, 20:30 (Ref:3413897)

My stream went on and off. Those Cadillac are really fast. Yet again, they seemed to run around in formation just keeping everyone at bay. Also, anyone know if a Z4 will show up again? I wonder if the MB needs a BoP.

tux · 1 Jun 2014, 20:32 (Ref:3413899)

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Originally Posted by Cheyne

Wow the Lambo driver needs to find a new hobby before he hurts someone.

Thats just standard for the guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d_z...ature=youtu.be

Breitling24 · 1 Jun 2014, 20:42 (Ref:3413904)

nm

Cheyne · 1 Jun 2014, 21:05 (Ref:3413914)

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Originally Posted by ttdriver2009

My stream went on and off. Those Cadillac are really fast. Yet again, they seemed to run around in formation just keeping everyone at bay. Also, anyone know if a Z4 will show up again? I wonder if the MB needs a BoP.

I think the driver has more to do with the performance of the MB then BoP does. If Will's money man says run the Z4 in WC then they will, but I doubt it since they have their GTD program that has a win.

Cheyne

Cheyne · 1 Jun 2014, 21:12 (Ref:3413917)

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Originally Posted by tux

Thats just standard for the guy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_d_z...ature=youtu.be

I'm not suprised. What does surprise me is they didn't drop the hammer on him. He could have injured safety workers and people are suprised when we have to have FCY to clear incidents on the track. He hit the truck hard enough to move it sideways and damage his Lambo bad enough to end his race. Just think if he had been going faster and not behind the pace car.

Cheyne

Lagunaseca_4life · 1 Jun 2014, 21:45 (Ref:3413926)

So he did hit the safety truck??? I don't remember hearing them say that,I thought he hit the wall.well hitting a safety vehicle is quite a bad thing to do under caution....

Cheyne · 1 Jun 2014, 21:50 (Ref:3413929)

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Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

So he did hit the safety truck??? I don't remember hearing them say that,I thought he hit the wall.well hitting a safety vehicle is quite a bad thing to do under caution....

He hit the Caddy SUV in the driver side door. They should the replay one time and he never hit the wall. He lost it on the water when he goose it and came around in to the safety truck.

Cheyne

Lagunaseca_4life · 1 Jun 2014, 23:11 (Ref:3413951)

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Originally Posted by Cheyne

He hit the Caddy SUV in the driver side door. They should the replay one time and he never hit the wall. He lost it on the water when he goose it and came around in to the safety truck.

Cheyne

Hmmm must of missed it,unbelieveable.

Cheyne · 1 Jun 2014, 23:48 (Ref:3413962)

It is in the replay. It is right around 55 minute mark in the video. They don't even mention, but do show it happen. Here are some screen shots I took.

Lagunaseca_4life · 2 Jun 2014, 00:00 (Ref:3413966)

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Originally Posted by Cheyne

It is in the replay. It is right around 55 minute mark in the video. They don't even mention, but do show it happen. Here are some screen shots I took.

Oh snap!

Thanks,I must of looked away.

That's just not good at all.hes lucky he only hit a truck, can't believe it.

MitchZ06 · 2 Jun 2014, 03:28 (Ref:3414003)

They mentioned it but thought he just spun and hit the barriers, not the safety vehicle.

NaBUru38 · 2 Jun 2014, 03:41 (Ref:3414009)

Another comment: I think that the starting grid was way too compact. There was barely any room between rows. A tangle would have caused a massacre. The cars should have been spread along the frontstretch.

MitchZ06 · 2 Jun 2014, 03:50 (Ref:3414012)

They said at the start of race 2 when the Aston stalled that they had to bunch them in to get the field to fit on the start straight, guess there wasn't huge amounts of space...

Lagunaseca_4life · 2 Jun 2014, 03:59 (Ref:3414014)

I'm not a fan of the starting location at belle isle, between this race and the tudor and Indy race it caused problems,confusions,and aborted starts.the starters stand is blind from before the right hand bend and some cars start accelerating and racing before the green flag is even seen.i know they have the crew on the radio but there's to mich temptation there to jump the start.and for PWC the cars are just packed together and is asking for a huge pile up if there's a stall.

ttdriver2009 · 2 Jun 2014, 19:59 (Ref:3414458)

I mentioned on another thread but there are issues with the Pirelli tire. During the broadcast, the non GT3 cars do better on the starts and restarts over the GT3 cars as the GT3 cars take time to get up to speed because of the tire. Hopefully this doesn't become the #1 issue as it is in IMSA because the Continental tire has the same behavior. We already have a premier series and I hope Pirelli addresses this issue.

Mike Hedlund · 2 Jun 2014, 20:01 (Ref:3414459)

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Originally Posted by ttdriver2009

I mentioned on another thread but there are issues with the Pirelli tire. During the broadcast, the non GT3 cars do better on the starts and restarts over the GT3 cars as the GT3 cars take time to get up to speed because of the tire. Hopefully this doesn't become the #1 issue as it is in IMSA because the Continental tire has the same behavior. We already have a premier series and I hope Pirelli addresses this issue.

There is no problem with the Pirelli tire used in PWC.

-mike

Lagunaseca_4life · 2 Jun 2014, 20:08 (Ref:3414461)

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Originally Posted by ttdriver2009

I mentioned on another thread but there are issues with the Pirelli tire. During the broadcast, the non GT3 cars do better on the starts and restarts over the GT3 cars as the GT3 cars take time to get up to speed because of the tire. Hopefully this doesn't become the #1 issue as it is in IMSA because the Continental tire has the same behavior. We already have a premier series and I hope Pirelli addresses this issue.

As mike said there is nothing wrong with the perelli tire,and I think it's the same tire that is used in European gt3. The problem in Imsa with conti is that they are made for DP's, in PWC the only non gt3 cars are the Cadillacs.whcih like DPs the caddys are heavyer and have a ton more torque,so they can put heat much quicker into the tires compared to the gt3 cars.but once the race move on deeper into the stint the tires start to degrade from the weight and power where as the gt3s don't and get an advantage.this didn't happen in Detroit because of the cautions allowing the caddys to cool and save their tires.

ttdriver2009 · 2 Jun 2014, 22:08 (Ref:3414498)

It just seems odd the announcers would mention the tire issue, plus the Caddilacs seemed to pull out to a lead in a few laps and then just ran there. Anyone know what about the Acuras? They are not GT3. They were not at Detroit but will be running soon. They are AWD and that is now a different scenario. It seems that the benefit might be to build a non GT3 car for that series because they are not recognized by the FIA.

As for the tires, how can they not be an issue? The Cadillacs are not GT3 spec. I assume Mike has driven the Cadillac and can provide this info where the tire is not an issue? Not trying to start a fight but it does seem odd that some can run GT3 and others are not. Maybe make a specific tire just for the non GT3 cars?

PointDSM · 2 Jun 2014, 23:43 (Ref:3414514)

The Cadillac's are a full-factory team, unfortunately I don't think Mike has that kind of connections! The Acura's will act much like the Volvo's of yester-year. They will run hard and rely on cautions to keep their tires from falling off. Same thing with the Cadillac, although at Detroit the Cadillac's were so fast that they got a lead and ran to a pace. They had more in the tank if their tires fell off a bit (more power).

The fantastic thing about IMSA is that it puts a very high emphasis on keeping teams in the series by grandfathering cars (phase-out mentality). This is the reason the CTS-VR is still on track. Just like the Caddy's will work on their road course setup for next year, the GT3 cars will work on their street course setup.

PWC is starting with a good quality tire and the cars adjust to it (some better than others on different tracks). TUSC starts with a terrible tire that 1/2 the field is unable to adjust to if they wanted to.

Breitling24 · 3 Jun 2014, 00:11 (Ref:3414519)

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Originally Posted by PointDSM

The fantastic thing about IMSA is that it puts a very high emphasis on keeping teams in the series by grandfathering cars (phase-out mentality). This is the reason the CTS-VR is still on track...

I think you meant to write "SCCA" and not "IMSA" in first sentence?

PointDSM · 3 Jun 2014, 00:54 (Ref:3414528)

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Originally Posted by Breitling24

I think you meant to write "SCCA" and not "IMSA" in first sentence?

Yes, you're correct. Can't edit it now though...

Breitling24 · 3 Jun 2014, 01:36 (Ref:3414541)

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Originally Posted by PointDSM

Can't edit it now though...

this is the same.

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