F3 Euroseries - Pau!

[Last2LiftOff]

What the heck, I'll open an EF3 thread this time and miss everything as an introduction except the weekend schedule. But please, add on.

Timetable
30/05/2008 10:30 hrs free practice
30/05/2008 15:00 hrs free practice 2
31/05/2008 09:45 hrs qualifying race 1
31/05/2008 14:00 hrs race 1
01/06/2008 17:00 hrs race 2

Oh, and a lap of the circuit (courtesy BF3 I take it...dunno). The circuits a little hairy.

[Lam Pak]

tv coverage for asia and australasia?

[pericu]

Yesterday, I was talking with Dani Campos about the race, and he hopes to be in the first 15 positions, as Hockenheim. Secure that only finishing the race already is a good result. I think there will be a lot of retirements
It seems to be that the rain could be present. There is 60% posibilities of rain all weekend. So, it could be more difficult for the drivers. Besides, few drivers has run in this circuit, except I think Clairay and somebody more.


Wickens will make debut with F3, it isn't? I think he will not have many problems. He already has run with many cars, and urban circuits(A1gp, ws, atlantics ...).

[META4]

good to remember that British F3 raced there few years ago as well as French Formula Renault so i think there will be some drivers experienced

Was not Campos racing there last year with Formula Master?

[Daisy]

Originally Posted by META4

good to remember that British F3 raced there few years ago as well as French Formula Renault so i think there will be some drivers experienced

Was not Campos racing there last year with Formula Master?

No, that is Oliver Campos Hull, this is Daniel. They are probably related, but not the same.

Didn't British F3 have a race at Pau last year. Shouldn't do Breen and Bird harm, since the F3 Euroseries were not there last season, I don't think a lot of the other drivers from the current grid has raced there, apart from the French guys perhaps.

[META4]

agree no much drivers will know the track then ... from what i red somewhere else some drivers (Bianchi,Mortara,lancester and Mailleux) where racing last week end during the historic Pau Grand Prix

Only Formula Master was racing last year in Pau and will be back this season.

It will be interesting to compare the lap time between F3 Euroseries and Formula Master

[miniman]

Originally Posted by Daisy

No, that is Oliver Campos Hull, this is Daniel. They are probably related, but not the same.

Didn't British F3 have a race at Pau last year. Shouldn't do Breen and Bird harm, since the F3 Euroseries were not there last season, I don't think a lot of the other drivers from the current grid has raced there, apart from the French guys perhaps.

British F3 did not race there last year, these guys have no knowledge of circuit. only street race lsst year was Bucharest, where Bird won.

[gomick]

A very tight street circuit - i love them

Fastest Qualifying Times of recent years....

Formula 3 Euro Series 2005 Lewis Hamilton 1:10.490
International Formula Master 2007 Maximilian Goetz 1:12.165
British Formula 3 2005 Mike Conway 1:12.946
French Formula Renault 2006 Jean k Vernay 1:15.139

Euro F3 Points after 4 rounds...

1. Mika Maki 19
2. Edoardo Mortara 19
3. Niko Hulkenberg 14
4. Renger van der Zande 11
5. Yann Clairay 9
6. Jules Bianchi 9
7. Franck Mailleux 8
8. Charlie Kimball 8
9. Koudai Tsukakoshi 8
10. Christian Vietoris 7

[Last2LiftOff]

Sorry guys, dang rookies.

2.0L 4's I know, but 210 bhp or thereabouts same as BF3?

Telemetry (data radio): Not allowed

Data and voice communication back to the pits, or just data? Seems a little harsh.

Everyone has to have a first time out so, why not Pau...yikes!

[strider]

Here's a story that should bring a smile to your face, L2LO!

They are right about Signature being Pau specialists, too, so Rob could upset the form book on his début. It may depend on how good the VW engine is around the streets.

[Sev]

First practice results are in:

POS NO CL DRIVER NAT CAR TIME LAPS GAP KPH
3 Christian VIETORIS GER 1 Mucke Motorsport 1:14.130 19 134.03
7 Edoardo MORTARA ITA 2 Signature-Plus 1:14.162 23 0.032 133.97
30 Jean Karl VERNAY FRA 3 Signature-Plus 1:14.333 20 0.203 133.66
24 Jules BIANCHI FRA 4 R ART Grand Prix 1:14.338 19 0.208 133.66
18 Martin PLOWMAN GBR 5 R RC Motorsport 1:14.391 20 0.261 133.56
19 Tom DILLMANN FRA 6 SG Formula 1:14.451 17 0.321 133.45
28 Koudai TSUKAKOSHI JPN 7 Manor Motorsport 1:14.487 20 0.357 133.39
2 James JAKES GBR 8 ART Grand Prix 1:14.596 19 0.466 133.19
9 Renger v d ZANDE NED 9 Prema Powerteam 1:14.603 23 0.473 133.18
25 Jon LANCASTER GBR 10 R ART Grand Prix 1:14.662 20 0.532 133.08
29 Kazuya OSHIMA JPN 11 Manor Motorsport 1:14.742 20 0.612 132.93
8 Franck MAILLEUX FRA 12 Signature-Plus 1:14.769 22 0.639 132.88
1 Nico HULKENBERG GER 13 ART Grand Prix 1:14.867 20 0.737 132.71
14 Michael KLEIN GER 14 Jo Zeller Racing 1:14.894 19 0.764 132.66
35 Robert WICKENS CAN 15 R Signature-Plus 1:14.910 20 0.780 132.63
20 Henkie WALDSCHMIDT NED 16 R SG Formula 1:14.934 17 0.804 132.59
5 Sam BIRD GBR 17 Manor Motorsport 1:14.976 20 0.846 132.52
10 Charlie KIMBALL USA 18 Prema Powerteam 1:14.977 20 0.847 132.52
21 Richard PHILIPPE FRA 19 R Carlin Motorsport 1:15.040 21 0.910 132.40
23 Dani CLOS ESP 20 Prema Powerteam 1:15.102 20 0.972 132.30
26 Mika MAKI FIN 21 R Mucke Motorsport 1:15.226 19 1.096 132.08
4 Erik JANIS CZE 22 R Mucke Motorsport 1:15.306 16 1.176 131.94
22 Rodolfo GONZALEZ VEN 23 Carlin Motorsport 1:15.342 23 1.212 131.87
17 Maximilian GOTZ GER 24 RC Motorsport 1:15.389 20 1.259 131.79
33 Cong Fu CHENG CHI 25 RC Motorsport 1:15.411 21 1.281 131.75
34 Yann CLAIRAY FRA 26 SG Formula 1:15.439 16 1.309 131.70
6 Niall BREEN IRL 27 Manor Motorsport 1:15.456 8 1.326 131.67
15 Daniel CAMPOS ESP 28 R HBR Motorsport 1:15.627 22 1.497 131.38
32 Jens KLINGMANN GER 29 R RC Motorsport 1:15.750 18 1.620 131.16
27 Basil SHAABAN LIB 30 HBR Motorsport 1:16.250 19 2.120 130.30

Impressive performances by Vietoris, Wickens, and the Frenchies.

[Sev]

Double post.

[pericu]

I have followed the second sesion, and I see very strong Vietoris and Vernay, especially. They have been very fast all time, with few laps already they was in top.
Dani Clos has done his best time at penultimate lap, so I think that he didn't put new tyres to practise the qualy. In fact, he always reserves the new tyres for the qualy.
I'm sure that Vietoris put new tyres, so this very good lap.
Good to see other time Lancaster on top, after his difficult start at championship
Jakes has had some problem, because he only has done 7 laps if I don't remember badly.

Of Hulkenberg (3º) to Van der Zande (21º), only there is 0.5 second. The qualifying will be interesting.


Free practice 2
1 - Christian Vietoris (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'12"354 - 17
2 - Edoardo Mortara (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'12"850 - 19
3 - Nico Hulkenberg (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'12"940 - 20
4 - Jules Bianchi (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'12"971 - 19
5 - Mika Maki (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'12"996 - 20
6 - Jean Karl Vernay (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'13"034 - 19
7 - Kodai Tsukakoshi (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'13"042 - 19
8 - Jon Lancaster (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'13"059 - 20
9 - Tom Dillmann (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'13"122 - 20
10 - Martin Plowman (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'13"124 - 20
11 - Yann Clairay (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'13"181 - 20
12 - Erik Janis (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'13"291 - 18
13 - Dani Clos (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'13"307 - 21
14 - Kazuya Oshima (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'13"334 - 19
15 - Robert Wickens (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'13"357 - 20
16 - Richard Philippe (Dallara-Mercedes) - Carlin - 1'13"433 - 23
17 - Charlie Kimball (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'13"465 - 21
18 - Niall Breen (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'13"496 - 20
19 - Sam Bird (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'13"522 - 19
20 - Michael Klein (Dallara-Mercedes) - Zeller - 1'13"539 - 19
21 - Renger Van der Zande (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'13"579 - 21
22 - Henki Waldschmidt (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'13"759 - 18
23 - Franck Mailleux (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'14"024 - 20
24 - Rodolfo Gonzalez (Dallara-Mercedes) - Carlin - 1'14"036 - 20
25 - Daniel Campos (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'14"258 - 20
26 - Jens Klingmann (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'14"270 - 21
27 - Maximilian Gotz (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'14"589 - 6
28 - Basil Shaaban (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'14"596 - 20
29 - James Jakes (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'14"693 - 7
30 - Cheng Cong Fu (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'15"499 - 16

[Mekola]

Good to see that Hulkenberg did better in the 2nd practice.

[Sev]

Unsurprising really though; I expect to get Hulkenburg to get the majority of poles this year. But maybe not this race! Vietoris and Mortara both look really strong. Mortara is quite the surprise of this year. From last year I knew he was fast, but not a title contender.

[Jimmy Magnusson]

I'm sorry, I don't see the point of Mr. Wickens racing in F3. Wouldn't it have been better for Red Bull to a) put more faith in the driver they booted out or b) give someone a decent career break? And Hülkenberg really needs to win this year, anything else would be quite a failure.

[OJB]

As far as I can work out, I think Jakes is on pole alongside Mortara. Seems qualifying was split in two for Pau, so they've adopted the sort of system that Wolrld Series used last year.

Maki 3rd, Hulkenberg 4th, Mailleux 5th, Vietoris 6th, Clairay 7th, Philippe 8th, Vernay 9th and Gotz 10th. Good for VW

[Valker]

Hmm... are you sure it won't be based on lap times only: Jakes, Mäki, Mortara, Hükenberg, Maillaux, Clairay, Vernay etc

[META4]

James Jakes (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'26"189
Edoardo Mortara (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'26"924

Mika Maki (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'26"618
Nico Hulkenberg (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'27"171

Franck Mailleux (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'27"233
Christian Vietoris (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'28"042

Yann Clairay (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'27"461
Richard Philippe (Dallara-Mercedes) - Carlin - 1'28"314

Jean Karl Vernay (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'27"515
Maximilian Gotz (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'28"328

Kodai Tsukakoshi (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'27"563
Jon Lancaster (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'28"451

Erik Janis (Dallara-Mercedes) - Mucke - 1'27"911
Daniel Campos (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'28"538

Jules Bianchi (Dallara-Mercedes) - ART - 1'28"219
Tom Dillmann (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'28"716

Niall Breen (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'28"220
Sam Bird (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'28"716

Rodolfo Gonzalez (Dallara-Mercedes) - Carlin - 1'28"225
Robert Wickens (Dallara-Volkswagen) - Signature - 1'29"515

Cheng Cong Fu (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'29"586
Jeng Klingsmann (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'29"331

Renger Van der Zande (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'29"844
Charlie Kimball (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'29"603

Dani Clos (Dallara-Mercedes) - Prema - 1'30"073
Martin Plowman (Dallara-Volkswagen) - RC - 1'30"954

Kazuya Oshima (Dallara-Mercedes) - Manor - 1'30"806
Michael Klein (Dallara-Mercedes) - Zeller - 1'31"981

Basil Shaaban (Dallara-Mercedes) - HBR - 1'31"988
Henki Waldschmidt (Dallara-Mercedes) - SG - 1'32"130

[Last2LiftOff]

30 cars on that street course in itself is pretty cool. Good luck boys. A wet track for some of qualifying this morning, maybe again this afternoon.

[strider]

It might be cool, except the live timing seems to have frozen with 25m 05s of the first race to go. Never mind, I'm not that interested.

Correction: now it's all over. Well done, James Jakes!

[Daisy]

Did really only 10 cars finish the race? Looks like chaos. Well done to Prema from the back now 1st and 3rd for race two. And of course good job by James Jakes. Good run after two dissapointing weekends.

[Last2LiftOff]

Yeah, somewhere between Laps 10 and 29, van der Zande was in there for 8th and pole tomorrow.

[pericu]

Amazing, crazy, beautiful race. Only have finished 10 drivers. A lot of accidents. In every lap, somebody out. I think that in two times safety car appeared.
Well done James Jakes and Mortara. Great overtake from Lancaster to Mailleux. I'm a little sad from Campos, because he was 11º and he could finished in top five. Bad luck.
I have had the luck to see the race in live ( I don't known if you can see F3 euroseries on Tv, but in Spain not) so, maybe tomorrow I also could see the second race. If I can, I'll say you how see it.
Tomorrow, Van der Zande pole (as Hockenheim), 2n Klein (very good race) and 3º Clos, who started in 27º and finished 6º. Great race, I'm very happy.

[Suze]

Waiting for WTCC quali to start, and yep apparently it was only 10 cars finishing, quote the commentator "they left their brains in the pitlane"...... Seems to be lots of barrier repairs etc going on now!