Bruno Senna

Tiptop · 25 May 2005, 14:25 (Ref:1309906)

I am a massive Ayrton Senna fan and have been for years, and when I saw the Senna name appear again in F3 I was keen to learn whether or not Bruno Senna shared the same talent for his uncle.

I know it's early days and Bruno was banned from racing karts when his uncle died in 1994 but I was just curious as to others people thoughts on how good he is and whether they are keen to see the Senna name back in F1 in the future ?

Kicking-back · 25 May 2005, 14:29 (Ref:1309907)

He's done about 3 races in F3 - it's a bit premature to be thinking of F1.

I like to see drivers reach it meritoriously.

If he's good enough, the name will help, but it's a huge burden too

Tiptop · 25 May 2005, 14:32 (Ref:1309910)

You are correct I agree it's premature for F1 but it would be nice to see that Senna name racing against Piquet Jnr and Rosberg etc...

I hope he delivers and gets to F1 on his own merit as you say..

Sodemo · 25 May 2005, 14:37 (Ref:1309917)

I was at Donnington and Croft for two of the F3 meetings in question.

He was ragged at Donnington and made some pretty rookie mistakes it has to be said, however he did pull a couple of outstanding overtaking moves into McLeans and Coppice corners.

Kicking-back · 25 May 2005, 14:37 (Ref:1309918)

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Originally Posted by Tiptop

You are correct I agree it's premature for F1 but it would be nice to see that Senna name racing against Piquet Jnr and Rosberg etc...

But not Lauda, please

Knowlesy · 25 May 2005, 16:19 (Ref:1310017)

No, not Mathias. Christ he's poor. And that's being kind.

Anyways....Bruno Senna. I've watched all his Formula BMW meetings at the back end of last season and seen highlights of the majority of his F3 stuff and I am quite impressed with what I see in terms of skill and pace. But there is a major rawness there at the minute in that his massive inexperience hinders him in racing situations. But he is learning all the time, and I believe he has a massive potential. I'm quite sure he'll do well in this sport.

maximus · 25 May 2005, 16:29 (Ref:1310025)

Yeah I saw him at Donington and he was very impressive in practice when the conditions were tricky. He was very quick in the races but he kept throwing it off the road!

**Adam43** · 25 May 2005, 16:35 (Ref:1310030)

moved to NISS

CallumC · 25 May 2005, 17:21 (Ref:1310060)

As you have said, he seems pretty kwik just keeps throwing it off, could be a lack of race that should have been learned in karting perhaps???

Would love to see him make to F1 though, experience will come I reckon!!

rustyfan · 25 May 2005, 17:38 (Ref:1310067)

Apparently Bruno has signed up to do the Ultimate Rally next year, so let's hope that doesn't end up screwing up his racing career (IF he indeed does take part, that is).

The UR is going to be insane.

**bella** · 25 May 2005, 18:12 (Ref:1310088)

bruno is one of those drivers that you just know for a fact is going to be very very good. of course it won't be straight away, but he'll get there.

TomS · 25 May 2005, 19:17 (Ref:1310130)

ultimate rally?:S

rustyfan · 25 May 2005, 20:57 (Ref:1310207)

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Originally Posted by TomS

ultimate rally?:S

You know what the Gumball 3000 is? The UR is a similar event, only crazier.

jondownunder · 25 May 2005, 22:08 (Ref:1310254)

I've been very impressed with Bruno's raw pace, but as people have said his racecraft needs a lot of work. He seems to have the talent to go with his name, but I would have thought he'd be better off doing a full season of Formula Renault before F3. Maybe after a learning year of F3 we can truly judge his potential next year (assuming he doesn't jump in at the deep end again in something like GP2).

flexible-flyer · 25 May 2005, 22:13 (Ref:1310259)

cant blame him for trying. his family were holding him back unfairly. the guy obviously has racing in his blood and i think he has done well considering he only started racing very recently.

**bella** · 25 May 2005, 22:16 (Ref:1310263)

jon, what on earth would make you think he'd learn things in frenault that he can't learn in f3? it's not like he'd be able to learn in peace there either.

as someone once said, if you can't throw yourself into a particular level of motorsport and survive straight away, you probably shouldn't be there in the first place.

strider · 25 May 2005, 22:30 (Ref:1310276)

There may be some fast tracking in progress to make up for lost time, but he will actually learn more in F3 than he would in FRenault and I'd say he's with the best possible team for him at this stage.

By my reckoning the second race at Knockhill would have been his 12th ever car race, and that's without a proper karting background.

jondownunder · 25 May 2005, 23:05 (Ref:1310292)

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Originally Posted by bella

jon, what on earth would make you think he'd learn things in frenault that he can't learn in f3? it's not like he'd be able to learn in peace there either.

as someone once said, if you can't throw yourself into a particular level of motorsport and survive straight away, you probably shouldn't be there in the first place.

True, but I was just thinking he could hone his racecraft in Formula Renault with a little less pressure/expectation from the prying eyes of the media. I know his circumstances were different, but Scott Speed didn't benefit from jumping straight into F3. But so far it seems Senna has the talent to cope with the jump, and as he learns more concrete results will hopefully follow.

DavidStHubbins · 26 May 2005, 05:12 (Ref:1310404)

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Originally Posted by maximus

Yeah I saw him at Donington and he was very impressive in practice when the conditions were tricky. He was very quick in the races but he kept throwing it off the road!

Sounds like the original Senna when he started! I'm glad that it seems he is fast - those freakish reactions/co-ordination/etc may have survived and been passed down after all..

Zurich · 26 May 2005, 08:15 (Ref:1310473)

I saw him at a couple of the tests, where he was particularly impressive. He's shown flashes of pace since then, but no real consistency or progress in races. But I think he has done as much as anyone can have expected so far, considering his experience. He is certainly a very very naturally able driver and it wouldn't shock me to see him make it to F1.

moggie · 26 May 2005, 11:44 (Ref:1310619)

Too true, he does have talent but come on - it is a Senna. He doesn't need to race to be what he is and surely he is just doing this for a bit of fun? So whether he sinks or swims, I think we will all be impressed!

Mathias · 26 May 2005, 16:30 (Ref:1310819)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

No, not Mathias. Christ he's poor. And that's being kind.

Eh?! What have I ever done to you?

Oh, I see

Mathias · 26 May 2005, 16:40 (Ref:1310830)

There's some bizarre stuff in this thread, I must say.

To be honest, my first impressions of Bruno are that he is pretty damned ragged, though he does have some pace on him. And I think he's in danger of blowing his career by trying to bite off more than he can chew. That said, he did pretty well in FRenault at Macau last year.

I agree with Bella that a year in F3 is probably as good a move as a year in FRenault (especially as the latter is just oh so boring IMHO), but I think the idea that you can judge a driver by how well he'd do if you just through him into any series is utter crap. If you put me in a F3 car tomorrow, I'd probably do a lot of damage, but if you put me through a few seasons in karts and single-seaters I'd be bound to do a lot better. If you could find a cockpit opening that was wide enough that is. And Bruno didn't exactly excel in FBMW last year. Blah blah blah.

Knowlesy · 26 May 2005, 17:06 (Ref:1310856)

Of course I didn't mean yourself, Mathias of Leafy Buckinghamshire! Hehe...You're not quite as incapable as the Lauda variant.

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