Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours and Repetition

[FIRE]

McLaren has it's own topic:
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...114980&page=14

[Christian Mogami]

Dagy's was talking about the Corvette GTE.

Autosport broke the story about the 650S GT.

[Articus]

Dagy's said :

Looks like pieces are being put into place for a new major factory GTE program for 2015.. If the class couldn't get any better!

I can't understand why he'd be talking about Corvette and which class he's referring to unless it's Corvette in the FIA WEC.

[Christian Mogami]

Originally Posted by Articus

Dagy's said :

I can't understand why he'd be talking about Corvette and which class he's referring to unless it's Corvette in the FIA WEC.

Corvette in FIA WEC.

[Deleted]

"If the class couldn't get any better!"
I can't think of many ways how it could be worse...

Anyway it's sort of sensational headline from Dagys on twitter as when you actually read the article from s365 it's just yet another non-commitment "we'll see" response from Fehan we've heard before and which means nothing.

“We always look at opportunities that are out there,” he said. “Do I see any change in the near future? No. But does that mean that we have tunnel vision on what we do? No. We look at everything.

“Right now, for the factory team, it’s not in the cards, in the short term, to compete in the WEC. But we’ll wait and see how that develops. We’ve never turned our back on it and we’ve never closed our eyes on it. It’s always an option for us.”

[GT3.14]

Dagys also tweeted that what he was referring to was not McLaren.

[Starfish Primer]

Originally Posted by Christian Mogami

Corvette in FIA WEC.

Crossing fingers, the WEC need more badasses. Larbre was trying to get the C7 this year and was denied, let´s see if returns to Chevy on 2015

[Lagunaseca_4life]

If a corvette runs gte-pro wec then that class will turn Into an even bigger bop- politicing shenanigans class, some what like what GTLM is turning into.the corvettes are cool but have been winning the majority of the alms/tudor races since last year,just steam rolling one of the most competetive class driver and car wise all from bop.im starting to get tired of it and want to see other cars win a few races competetivly on track,not on a balancing chart piece of paper.


........but it seems like dagys is still at it again,looking for something from nothing....

[Deleted]

That's what you get if you dominate BoP class, people will complain you're being favoured no matter what the case might actually be.

Also, WEC GTE BoP gets adjusted every single round already. It's as bad for three makes as it is for five in USCC. And as the balancing is astronomically extensive already, Corvette being there wouldn't really change the amount of it, just added another piece of numbers for the GT committee.

[NelisB]

Originally Posted by Chiana

That's what you get if you dominate BoP class, people will complain you're being favoured no matter what the case might actually be.

Also, WEC GTE BoP gets adjusted every single round already. It's as bad for three makes as it is for five in USCC. And as the balancing is astronomically extensive already, Corvette being there wouldn't really change the amount of it, just added another piece of numbers for the GT committee.

The problem is if you don't have a BoP there will be a manufacturer who putts in more money and manpower and then everyone will complain that they are not following "the spirit of the rules". For me BoP is the lesser of the two evils. BoP will keep manufacturers in the race/championship, one team/car dominating because they spend more money will not do that...

[Starfish Primer]

Originally Posted by NelisB

The problem is if you don't have a BoP there will be a manufacturer who putts in more money and manpower and then everyone will complain that they are not following "the spirit of the rules". For me BoP is the lesser of the two evils. BoP will keep manufacturers in the race/championship, one team/car dominating because they spend more money will not do that...

I agree, the BOP keeps manufacturers out of building fake GT like the GT1s of the 90s. The problem is a good BOP update regulation.

[Ronald_Fish]

I would suggest:

Ford are entering with a new Ford GT.

Anyone recall a Ford 1-2-3 many years ago... when is the 50th anniversary of that...

Ford Ecoboost engine I bet, keeps the road car link that Ford want from their racing (as they have stated - reason why they are not interested in indycar)

Good luck to them, Dodge vs Corvette vs Ford GT. I like the sound of that!

[Christian Mogami]

HPD is in the process of getting team/team members/drivers for the NSX GTE.

I heard it will be a full factory effort.

Did ACO/FIA allow them to be hybrid? there is another BOP problem!

In SGT they carry more weight and a very low power hybrid system.

[TF110]

If hes not talking McLaren, maybe its Viper? Id love to see the snakes in the wec.

[Articus]

I'm a little annoyed however about how Fiat Chrysler has handled the new Viper. Rumour has it the car could have been a lot better than what they were allowed to do with it.

[TF110]

Originally Posted by Articus

I'm a little annoyed however about how Fiat Chrysler has handled the new Viper. Rumour has it the car could have been a lot better than what they were allowed to do with it.

Yeah it could. Look at the new hellcat challenger. Yea its supercharged but 707hp 650lb-ft of torque... the V10 in the Viper can go higher, but I think Ferrari territory is a place they dont want it to be.

[Articus]

Originally Posted by Christian Mogami

HPD is in the process of getting team/team members/drivers for the NSX GTE.

I heard it will be a full factory effort.

Did ACO/FIA allow them to be hybrid? there is another BOP problem!

In SGT they carry more weight and a very low power hybrid system.

1) Will they just collect the Super GT drivers
2) Can ACO decrease the NSX tank size such that the hybrid system must be used to boost efficiency and not power.

[HJJ]

Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

Ford racing only put out money to partially help Robertson racing switch to michelins. The rest was all Robertson racing and matech.At least those where the most memorable.

Ford gave us 7 post shaker rig time at Roush's place in Charlotte (maybe twice) and time in the Lockheed wind tunnel. The team did the Michelin deal on their own.

[joeb]

Originally Posted by Ronald_Fish

I would suggest:

Ford are entering with a new Ford GT.

Anyone recall a Ford 1-2-3 many years ago... when is the 50th anniversary of that...

Ford Ecoboost engine I bet, keeps the road car link that Ford want from their racing (as they have stated - reason why they are not interested in indycar)

Good luck to them, Dodge vs Corvette vs Ford GT. I like the sound of that!

Would be tough to enter a new car in the GT class since there are rules about have a street version available before you race it. But I'm sure they could find a way.....

And Welcome to the Forum!

[Articus]

I would be skeptical that Ford would just build a GT successor for next year having not shown off any concepts to gauge the public opinion for a greenlight and/or to hype up the product. When the GT comes back, they'll spread it like a wildfire before it comes to production.

[Christian Mogami]

Originally Posted by Articus

1) Will they just collect the Super GT drivers
2) Can ACO decrease the NSX tank size such that the hybrid system must be used to boost efficiency and not power.

I'm pretty sure this time it's going to be an American effort for winning Le Mans not like last time 94,95 with an all Japanese squad.

Because it's being built in America and that will be it's main market.

We will see what the new GT rules are?

[TF110]

I know this has been talked about before, but this g56 project looks great. Hope it comes to fruition
http://inmotion.tue.nl/im01/

[MagVanisher]

Originally Posted by TF110

I know this has been talked about before, but this g56 project looks great. Hope it comes to fruition
http://inmotion.tue.nl/im01/

It's gorgeous to see that prototype, but I don't know if ACO will allow the IM01 due to:

1.) Having a single seat like in Formula One
2.) Rotary engine (Wankel-based) + AWD due to 4 electric motors

Although it's a radical design, I don't think it'll influence future LMP1 cars.

[CTD]

Originally Posted by MagVanisher

It's gorgeous to see that prototype, but I don't know if ACO will allow the IM01 due to:

1.) Having a single seat like in Formula One
2.) Rotary engine (Wankel-based) + AWD due to 4 electric motors

Although it's a radical design, I don't think it'll influence future LMP1 cars.

Why would a Rotary engine not be acceptable?
The rotary engine has never been directly banned at Le Mans.
AWD is already used at Le Mans.

I really don't see why the IM01 shouldn't be allowed to race at Le Mans.

[TF110]

Id love to see lmp1 look more like that. Theyre prototypes. They obviously arent going to ever have a passenger in it, so the two-seater rule is silly to me. But this car shouldnt have a problem if its a garage 56 entry. Looks a little like a wingless Red Bull X car from Gran Turismo. I like it!