Kimi- in another nightclub story. - Page 2

Skam85 · 24 Jan 2005, 03:27 (Ref:1208319)

They can do wrong??

ljakse · 24 Jan 2005, 08:16 (Ref:1208368)

In general, I couldn't care less what anybody does in their own free time.
However, if it's somebone famous showing that (s)he is just an ordinaty person they get my respect. I hate when 'celebrities' behave 'as they are expected to'.
If it was somebody anonimous this thread wouldn't have existed, and I wish these things never make it in the news.

Frank_White · 24 Jan 2005, 14:07 (Ref:1208584)

Well folks... According to Planet F-1 (and even Autosport) it seems that something a bit over the top did happen. Planet F-1 said that (through innuendo) that during a lap dance kimi was as drunk as a skunk and took down his pants and was touching himself in front of the dancers. He was then thrown out of the club. Apparently, he was extremely arrogant as well.

For me such behaviour definately crosses the line.

Kicking-back · 24 Jan 2005, 14:13 (Ref:1208588)

Autosport did not say that.

Autosport says that McLaren are investigating whether the story is true.

Martin Whitmarsh: "Kimi's here, he's at the test and he's in good nick,"

"I'm aware of the media coverage and it's not welcome for him or the team. As with many of these kind of articles it may not be wholly accurate and it is his private life.

"Kimi is focussed and I've spoken to him, we take it seriously, and we have to establish what the truth is. As I've said these things can be exaggerated as I believe this has been but the perception can be really negative."

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Key words there for me - things can be exaggerated as I believe this has been

Frank_White · 24 Jan 2005, 14:20 (Ref:1208590)

Obviously, Mclaren would not say that they have spoken to Kimi is they had'nt done some preliminary investigation. Planet -F1 however, DID SAY IT! Besides its obviously materially true, otherwise numerous publications would be sued for libel and the club would be sued for slander.

Furthermore, the detail of the story about the obscene behaviour is not something that would be made up. Moreover, anyone (a fortiori a famous person) would have to exhibit pretty extreme behaviour to get thrown out of a lap dancing club.

So come one folks, despite various degrees of hereo worship try to be objective here.

Frank_White · 24 Jan 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1208591)

Btw, Kicking-Back, did you expect Martin Whitmarsh to come out and issue a press release saying that reports indicate that our star multi-millionaire driver is a drunken flasher. Lets get real.

Glen · 24 Jan 2005, 14:24 (Ref:1208593)

You don't get chucked out of a place for nothing. What disgusts me about this story s Kimi's alleged attitude of arrogance - nobody is perfect and I'd be the last one to criticise a man for getting drunk and playing the fool... but that isn't the same as being out of control and just plain unpleasant, which is far harder to forgive.

That boy had better get his head in the right place and quickly - Montoya is coming and he's going to make mincemeat of him if he's not 100%.

Kicking-back · 24 Jan 2005, 14:36 (Ref:1208598)

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Originally Posted by Frank_White

Btw, Kicking-Back, did you expect Martin Whitmarsh to come out and issue a press release saying that reports indicate that our star multi-millionaire driver is a drunken flasher. Lets get real.

No, but in my line of work, I know the risks of jumping in and assuming every tabloid story is true.

BootsOntheSide · 24 Jan 2005, 14:59 (Ref:1208612)

I'm confused about this. Kimi gets drunk and acts stupid in a club, and people villify him. Chris Walker (bike racing star) does 130mph on open roads, gets a £1000 fine and 2-month driving ban, and people mock me for suggesting that the punishment was too low.

Jordi · 24 Jan 2005, 15:00 (Ref:1208613)

I think it's none of my business, so I'll say nothing else here. I care about on-track stuff.

Glen · 24 Jan 2005, 16:54 (Ref:1208684)

Maybe he has just been doing some PR work for McLaren's new sponsor - look public! look what alcohol can do for you! Mmmm booze.

Knowlesy · 24 Jan 2005, 17:03 (Ref:1208694)

Stop drinking Kimi. You mustn't have fun.

Formula Juan · 24 Jan 2005, 17:09 (Ref:1208699)

Shame on Kimi. I used to be a fan but not since these stories have come out. I feel he is in danger of completely losing the plot if he doesen't get help soon. I also believe that he will be beaten by Montoya despite the fact that Kimi has been at McLaren for three full seasons while this will be Juan Pablo's first.

garcon · 24 Jan 2005, 17:10 (Ref:1208702)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

Stop drinking Kimi. You mustn't have fun.

Ah now, that's the point. Far too many people are taken in by the tabloids and their festering hypocricy. Anyone in the public eye must never be seen to be enjoying themselves, just in case we might get too envious of their privileged lifestyle. When they do, we must all take a stance of pure self-righteousness and condemn outright their "disgraceful excesses".

Seems to me that Kimi is doing nothing more than getting the most out of life he can, the same as any born competitor... work hard, play hard.

mcurtis26 · 24 Jan 2005, 17:15 (Ref:1208708)

Kimi is in a bit of a no win situation...he's criticised daily for being cold and boring...now he gets drunk and gets thrown out of a club and gets hassle for it. Clearly there are limits to what a person can and should do, but everybody makes mistakes, just u can get away with them if your not in the public eye. James Hunt is celebrated as a character, due in no small part to his fondness for drinking.

Kicking-back · 24 Jan 2005, 17:24 (Ref:1208713)

Well, Kimi's back behind the wheel today and will test for the next three days.

He seems none the worse for it.

Knowlesy · 24 Jan 2005, 17:31 (Ref:1208723)

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Originally Posted by Formula Juan

Shame on Kimi. I used to be a fan but not since these stories have come out. I feel he is in danger of completely losing the plot if he doesen't get help soon. I also believe that he will be beaten by Montoya despite the fact that Kimi has been at McLaren for three full seasons while this will be Juan Pablo's first.

I wonder, Juan, if you would be saying this if, err, Juan was doing it....?

Nobody seemed to get upset when Schumacher got sozzled at Suzuka 2003 and started destroying everything whilst wearing a Toyota team shirt. Bloody hilarious it was!

It's nice to know these people have a fun side and are normal people.

Formula Juan · 24 Jan 2005, 17:59 (Ref:1208753)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

Nobody seemed to get upset when Schumacher got sozzled at Suzuka 2003 and started destroying everything whilst wearing a Toyota team shirt. Bloody hilarious it was!

Well I woulden't call myself a Schuey fan, but to be fair there is a difference between going out and getting bladdered once in a while and exposing yourself to strippers and doing weird stuff with inflatable dolphins in the middle of the streets!
And since when was wearing a Toyota shirt a crime?

Knowlesy · 24 Jan 2005, 18:08 (Ref:1208764)

Since Ralf moved there.

I can accept the argument that maybe Kimi has went too far in a way, but at the end of the day he's having a laugh and enjoying life. He hasn't done anything wrong and it's doubtful anyone nearby will have been offended, because they'll have been bladdered themselves.

It would be rather odd if he did it at the Monaco Grand Prix perhaps....but that ain't gonna happen. Kimi is a professional and cares too much about his racing. Has there been any indication of a drop in form? Nope, so all's well as far as I can see.

And it's nothing new. Remember during mid-2003 he fell onto the deck of a boat directly onto his head whilst drunk and he still nearly won the title!

ralf fan · 24 Jan 2005, 18:13 (Ref:1208771)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

And it's nothing new. Remember during mid-2003 he fell onto the deck of a boat directly onto his head whilst drunk and he still nearly won the title!

So are you suggesting that if that incident hadnt happened...hed have won the WDC by 50 pts?

Knowlesy · 24 Jan 2005, 18:14 (Ref:1208773)

No. What I am suggesting is that Kimi's "alcoholism" (

) has no effect on his abilities as a driver.

ralf fan · 24 Jan 2005, 18:16 (Ref:1208776)

Maybe Kimi went too far...but it is his life..and im sure he understands the risks he's taking...
they have to be so concentrated during the season...that it is obvious that the drivers will want to have a nice tension release during off season.

JJ Jet Plane · 24 Jan 2005, 18:25 (Ref:1208783)

Hey Ralf fan,

Drivers will want to have "a nice tension release" during the off season? Bearing in mind what Kimi was allegedly doing with himself I love your choice of words!

Knowlesy · 24 Jan 2005, 18:27 (Ref:1208786)

hehehe.....

Thread closed.

ralf fan · 24 Jan 2005, 18:29 (Ref:1208789)

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Originally Posted by JJ Jet Plane

Hey Ralf fan,

Drivers will want to have "a nice tension release" during the off season? Bearing in mind what Kimi was allegedly doing with himself I love your choice of words!

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