Worst f1 moment (not a crash or death)?

[Mr V]

one of my worst moments happened only a week ago, jenson missing out on a well deserved first podium!

and eddie losing the possibility of a wdc in '99

[Don K]

Panis winning the 1996 Monaco GP, after his opponent had been given the blue flag ...

[Mr V]

Originally posted by Don K
Panis winning the 1996 Monaco GP, after his opponent had been given the blue flag ...

don't remember exactly what your talking about don, please enlighten me! (was panis winning your worst moment?)

[JR27]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Red BARon


1997 - Jacque Villeneuve being disqualified after winning in japan due to overtaking under a yellow - a cynical attempt by the FIA to tak the title to the last round especially considering TGF, Frentzen and othrs also did the same on the same lap.

Huh??? Jacques never won the '97 Japanese GP......Eddie irvine was way out in front then "gifted" the win to Michael. Jacques was penalized for the passing under yellow on Saturday, I think..... Others also were guilty of the same "crime' but Jacques was on "probation" for doing the same thing a couple of times earlier in the season ( hmm.. not sure but i think it was 3 or 4 times).. And the FIA saw this as a way to artificially tighten up the WDC....just like they did in 1994.

I have a few "worst" moments...some which have been covered by others.

1. "Our Nige's" blowout in '86
2. Michaels thuggery at Jerez in '97
3. Trulli's heartbreak at Austria in '97
4. Ayrton's thuggery at Suzuka in '90
5. Bruno Giacomella's heartbreak at the Glen with Alfa
1980
6. John Watson's heartbreak at Dijion in '77

[Nicholas]

Although I was never around to see it, Hungary '97 - Motor racing is so unfair!

I wasn't too impressed by Montoya's "You've already killed.." comment either.

Button last fortnight was a bit of a shame, but his time will come.


And number one moment...
The Ferrari barge board screw up by the FIA was one of the first things I heard about in F1, it didn't create a good impression. Not exactly a "horrible" moment but it was a bad time for the "sport"

[JR27]

Opps........ forgot these as well..
7. the demise of Team Lotus, Shadow, Tyrrell, Brabham,
Penske, & Parnelli Jones Racing teams.
8. Mario lapping the field by the 60th lap of a 80 lap
race at Mosport in '77..and then having his engine let
go 3 laps from the end.........'sigh
9. The loss of Watkins Glen as the USGP venue.

[M Coupe]

Haver to agree on the demise of Team Lotus.

Also when De Ceseris broke down in the Jordan at Spa in 91.

[paulzinho]

Worst F1 moments....

The day when f1 became robot cars and the tracks became sanitised and boring without a challenge...

Don't get me wrong the racing has got better in the last year or so but most of the tracks are just !!!

[paulzinho]

Forgot to mention the loss of the little teams, some were big, some not so big.

I miss those slicks and prequalifying days!!!

As for a sporting event, the chicane at Suzuka 89, and the subsequent disqualification.

[av8rirl]

1. Definitely Mansell in Adelaide and Hungary. What a way to be robbed of WDC.

2. Hill in the Arrows breaking down on the last lap.

3. Ferrari messing up The Swerve's pitstop in 1999 when in with a good chance of WDC. Not that he was better than Mika but I would rather see Eddie winning that year.

[Muzza]

Five worst F1 moments in my opinion:

1.) Chopping the original Interlagos lay-out

2.) Monaco GP 1984 - race stopped just when Senna (and BELLOF!) were about to overtake Prost...

3.) Europe GP 1999 - Luca Badoer (in a MINARDI) could have won that one...

4.) Lamborghini bowing out of Formula 1.

5.) (although I love Graham Hill) - Clark losing the 1962 World Championship in the last race (South African GP) when his Lotus develops an oil leak... He was leading, the trophy was in the bag...

[Don K]

Originally posted by mr v
don't remember exactly what your talking about don, please enlighten me! (was panis winning your worst moment?)

Panis was fighting for position (I think it was p4 or p5) and wasn't able to pass his opponent, untill the marshals started waving blue flags.
At first I didn't know what to think of it, but then I realised there's a big chance those marshals were french.

Later in the race, lots of drivers retired, leaving Panis in p1.

A couple of worst moments for me are:

1. Hearing that the Australian GP was being moved from Adelaide to Melbourne.

2. Mika Hakkinen's crash in Friday practise at the 1995 Australian GP, I knew something bad had happened when I saw a couple of medical vehicles rushing at full speed to the scene.

[Raoul Duke]

Damon Hill's car breaking down on the final lap while leading in Hungery. Although since I was rooting for JV to win the WC I wasn't really complaining, but I still think it was unfair for Damon.

Ralf and Fisichella both being robber of a chance to win in Nurburgring 99.

JPM being rammed from behind in Brazil 2001

Mika breaking down on the last lap of Spain 2001

DC being stranded on the grid, Monaco 2001

And of course, JPM's penalty in Malaysia 2weeks ago, an incident wich is clinching proof of FIA's bias towards Ferrari(trust me, I gave them the benefit of the doubt for the longest time).

[racerguy]

Jerez 1997 isn't nearly as low as adelaide 1994, cos second time M.Schumacher's little plan didn't work.

[The Moon Monkey]

Suzuka 1990 and Senna harpooning Prost off at the first corner was the most deliberate "professional foul" I have seen and the fact he was not punished allowed M Schumacher to do this to Hill and Villeneuve in subsequent years....

It was totally disgraceful behaviour from Senna.

[f1manoz]

Mansell. Adelaide. 1986. Blow-out. 'Nuff said.

Others:

1997 Luxembourg GP when Mika, leading by a mile, was robbed of a deserved first GP win (and, as a Mika fan, am still not happy that he was gifted his first in Jerez.....)

Ayrton deliberately ramming Prost at the start, Suzuka 1990. I think that was worse than both of TGFs moves, considering that it could have ended a lot worse the speed they would have been travelling.

1994 Australian GP - last GP for Lotus

1996 Monaco GP when Alesi was again plagued by badluck. 1994 Italian GP as well.....

[Mr V]

Originally posted by f1manoz

(and, as a Mika fan, am still not happy that he was gifted his first in Jerez.....)

maybe not the way he, or anybody might have wanted it, but i look at it this way. it gave him confidence, and when dc stuck to his "gentleman's agreement" and let mika through (the 2nd time in 2 races) he knew he had dc where he needed him! if these "let throughs" hadn't happened, and mika's confidence hadn't come up, tgf would have definatly won the wdc in '98 (as dc hasn't really got the whole season package to win it) and '99 would proberbly have been a different outcome aswell!

[Adam43]

Originally posted by Muzza

3.) Europe GP 1999 - Luca Badoer (in a MINARDI) could have won that one...

I think you exaggerate a little! Although it was disappointing when he lost his 4th. At least Gene got 6th because of the retirement. Not as good, but come consolation.

Originally posted by JR27

7. the demise of Team Lotus, Shadow, Tyrrell, Brabham,
Penske, & Parnelli Jones Racing teams.

That reminds me. Eddie taking Johnny and his Lotus out of the 1994 Italian GP at the first corner. Johnny started 4th, Eddie 9th. The race was red flagged, but Johnny's spare didn't have the one and only good Mugen engine. The final nail in the Lotus coffin? Well maybe not, but it didn't help.

[DNQ]

Europe 1999 - Badore retiring from fourth place

Spain 2001 - Mika's Mac giving up on the final lap around...

Australia 1994 - Explanation not required

Australia 2002 - the McLaren MP4/17 in action...sigh

Japan 2001 - End of Alesi's career...

[andlowe]

1. Definatley Hungary '97. Was on hols in Greece watching it on a tiny portable tv with people who had no interest in motorsport at all, and they were gripped by the end. So nearly great triumph over adversity, especially after that move on MS at the end of the pit straight (Ithink it was MS wasn' it?)

2. Going back a bit here - Moss never winning a WDC. Although I certainly wasn't around it is a crying shame - especially as he had to gift it to someone else (Fangio I think!)

[calais]

worst moments??
1994
1995
2000
2001
figure it out!!!!!!

[Dr. Austin]

[QUOTE][i]Originally posted by Muzza


2.) Monaco GP 1984 - race stopped just when Senna (and BELLOF!) were about to overtake Prost..."

Here is some poetic justice. Prost only recieved half-points for that 84 Monoco win. That means he got 4.5 points instead of 9. Yes, he won monoco, but had the race gone full distance and he finished second, he would have gotten six. He would have acquired and additional 1.5 points. He lost the championship by 1/2 point.

[J.McClane]

[QUOTE]Suzuka 1990 and Senna harpooning Prost off at the first corner was the most deliberate "professional foul" I have seen and the fact he was not punished allowed M Schumacher to do this to Hill and Villeneuve in subsequent years....

It was totally disgraceful behaviour from Senna.

You seem to have forgoten to mention that Prost did excatly the same thing to Senna the year before

[J.McClane]