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27 Mar 2001, 07:21 (Ref:74685) | #1 | |
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it looks like Ferrari does have traction conrol after all.
from www.formula1.com "Ferrari have cleverly exploited a loophole in new regulations introduced at the beginning of this season to produce a system which legally controls wheelspin. The new rules implemented by the FIA stated that the maximum time allowed for a gear change in 2001 would be 200 milliseconds. In theory, this would curtail the possibility of using a traction control system because if the rules could stipulate the time the throttle and clutch were governed by electronics, it would limit the ability to replicate traction control via engine mapping. But the FIA did not know that last year Ferrari had developed a gearbox that could change a gear in an astounding 30 milliseconds. Crucially, they did not set a minimum time for each gear change." According to F1 Racing, this means that Ferrari's electronics have 170 milliseconds in which to legally control wheelspin, as it can be argued that a gear change is taking place. thid does not meen that other teams dont have sutch systems and i dont think that is what makes the whole difference, but if sauber also have ferrari gearbox, then mybee that may explain what frenzen whas talking about! does prost have a ferrari gear box? |
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27 Mar 2001, 08:04 (Ref:74691) | #2 | ||
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There's a topic about this already, f1ciamp. In short:
30 ms is not 'astounding'. All F1 gearchanges are within 20-40 ms. 170 ms is hardly of any use for TC either. It leaves room for 17 retarded ignitions, which last shorter than the blink of an eye. 200 ms maximum-gearchange-time-rule is in fact an anti-TC rule. |
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27 Mar 2001, 19:35 (Ref:74806) | #3 | |
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didnt see that one, i agree with u, thoe.
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28 Mar 2001, 12:15 (Ref:74930) | #4 | ||
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So Frenzy was right. Don't you all feel terrible for saying he was just dissing Ferrari?
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28 Mar 2001, 12:48 (Ref:74941) | #5 | ||
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No Liz. 170 ms! Wow! (I can imagine Schumacher up-shifting down-shiftting 20-40 times per corner exit to gain an effective aid ) But wasn’t Frentzen talking about Sauber anyway? Prost got a gearbox from Ferrari, but I don’t remember if Sauber did the same.
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28 Mar 2001, 14:41 (Ref:74967) | #6 | ||
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This supposedly brilliant gear-change thingy is introduced this year. And i do not believe that the same technology is being transfered to Sauber and Prost. Which means the reason of Sauber having excellent traction is not EXACTLY the same as Ferrari's.! Now, those who dissed about Ferrari having ILLEGAL TC should be hanging their heads down...
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29 Mar 2001, 02:10 (Ref:75156) | #7 | ||
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IF Ferrari is actually using TC, I think the FIA has checked whatever system they are using over and over, especially after all these accusations, and did not find anything illigal. That leaves them with 2 options: it's legal, or it's disguised in such a way that even the FIA couln't find it. Either way it's a brilliant system!
So any comments about this by the other teams are made because they can't stand the fact that someone else found something brilliant and they don't know what it is. When the X-wings were introduced, teams could see what they did and how they were constructed, so they just copied them. Since it's not possible to just copy this sytem, some drivers or teams start nagging like a group of footballplayers asking the referee for a yellow card. |
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31 Mar 2001, 17:20 (Ref:75743) | #8 | |
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Why, can you please tell me why the FIA would set a max on shift times. It doesn't make sense, and it has nothing to do with traction control. if this rule were true, than I driver who experiences gear box trouble in a race could possibly be disqualified because his car didn't shift fast enough. Not very logical. The article is a SILLY-SEASON rumor, and those who agree a simply dumbfounded by the performance of the Ferrari.
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