WEC Race 2014 FIA WEC - Round 1 - Silverstone - Page 4

GT6 · 10 Apr 2014, 17:47 (Ref:3390840)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Allowing myself to be gently encouraged by the weather forecast for the Easter weekend.

Admittedly a touch cold, but a far cry indeed from what we saw last year, particularly on the Saturday.

Well remember that a certain person will not be there so it will be warm and sunny

Sorry andrew could not resist that, hope op goes well

**Aysedasi** · 10 Apr 2014, 18:33 (Ref:3390852)

Oh it's gone already Simon.........

Bruised and sore, but hopefully on the mend. And I hope that the sun shines on all of you, after all, you need to get some practice in for the temperatures you'll have to cope with in June.......

LMP1 · 11 Apr 2014, 09:52 (Ref:3391013)

I'm just a casual viewer of sportscars so I don't always get some of the WEC rules:

What is the point in splitting P1 into -H and -L?
Are they worried some teams can't compete with the big manufacturers? If so, shouldn't they just compete in P2 instead of splitting the P1 class in two?

GT6 · 11 Apr 2014, 10:53 (Ref:3391030)

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Originally Posted by LMP1

I'm just a casual viewer of sportscars so I don't always get some of the WEC rules:

What is the point in splitting P1 into -H and -L?
Are they worried some teams can't compete with the big manufacturers? If so, shouldn't they just compete in P2 instead of splitting the P1 class in two?

There are different regulations for hybrid cars for obvious reasons, and within the hyrid regs there are all sorts of rules but if a car is simply petrol or diesel only then it is more suitable for private teams

MyNameIsNigel · 11 Apr 2014, 11:58 (Ref:3391042)

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Originally Posted by LMP1

I'm just a casual viewer of sportscars so I don't always get some of the WEC rules:

What is the point in splitting P1 into -H and -L?
Are they worried some teams can't compete with the big manufacturers? If so, shouldn't they just compete in P2 instead of splitting the P1 class in two?

It is worth noting as well that a specific "FIA Endurance Trophy" is awarded to the best private LMP1 team running in the LMP1-L category.

Another "FIA Endurance Trophy" is also supposed to be awarded to the best private LMP1 team drivers, but only if at least three cars are entered for the season, which is unlikely to happen as it becomes less and less likely that Lotus will make it to the race track.

Richard C · 11 Apr 2014, 14:07 (Ref:3391094)

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Originally Posted by LMP1

I'm just a casual viewer of sportscars so I don't always get some of the WEC rules:

What is the point in splitting P1 into -H and -L?
Are they worried some teams can't compete with the big manufacturers? If so, shouldn't they just compete in P2 instead of splitting the P1 class in two?

I will also take a stab at answering your questions...

If given a single set of rules in LMP1, the ACO (and likely everyone else) absolutely thinks there is little chance of a private team being able to complete against the factory teams (short of luck) due to resource (money) inequality. So if you likely have near zero chance at winning as privateer, why compete? That would mean LPM1 would be effectively factory only and nobody really wants that. Nobody wants all privateers to be stuffed into LMP2.

So they created two sets of rules for LMP1 (LMP1H and LMP1L). One for factory teams (hybrid) and the other for privateer teams (non-hybrid). ACO has tried to both balance energy allocations with regards to fuel and hybrid classifications as well as provide some incentives to the privateer teams (via increased allocations). Theoretically a top notch privateer team could win with less money spent.

I believe one goal of this is to support both factory and privateer teams at the same time but without putting all of their eggs in one basket. If the factory teams left (not a good thing regardless), they have regulation targeted at lower budget privateers.

Richard

Dead-Eye · 11 Apr 2014, 15:25 (Ref:3391126)

http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/l...s-silverstone/ Lotus going to miss Silverstone. Might almost be worth a sarcastic comment, but on the other hand the only reason Rebellion isn't doing the same is that they have old cars sitting around, which Lotus don't.

Albers Fan · 11 Apr 2014, 17:34 (Ref:3391205)

The new Lotus T129 will not take part in Silverstone.

One would like to make only test drives to ensure the reliability. the car was just getting ready. Lotus was let by the engine partner hang and has the change performed only late to AER.

The car shall have to do nothing more with the T128. The car is from the feather of Paul White.

http://www.lotus-lmp1.com/

Pandemonium · 11 Apr 2014, 17:48 (Ref:3391212)

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Originally Posted by Albers Fan

The new Lotus T129 will not take part in Silverstone.

One would like to make only test drives to ensure the reliability. the car was just getting ready. Lotus was let by the engine partner hang and has the change performed only late to AER.

The car shall have to do nothing more with the T128. The car is from the feather of Paul White.

http://www.lotus-lmp1.com/

OMG it is great that they are getting a new LMP1 website ready. Maybe they
intend serious bussiness this time. Maybe 2 cars for next year? Anyway teh car looks great.

GT6 · 11 Apr 2014, 18:27 (Ref:3391223)

Not really surprised that they will not be there but lets hope they make it to Spa

Starfish Primer · 11 Apr 2014, 19:29 (Ref:3391242)

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Originally Posted by Pandemonium

OMG it is great that they are getting a new LMP1 website ready. Maybe they
intend serious bussiness this time. Maybe 2 cars for next year? Anyway teh car looks great.

Serious business and Colin Kolles are incompatible.

ger80 · 11 Apr 2014, 20:05 (Ref:3391249)

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Originally Posted by Starfish Primer

Serious business and Colin Kolles are incompatible.

Well, he is a lot more successful in Motorsports than me - F3 with Pierre Kaffer, DTM, Spyker F1, HRT F1, R10 LMP, Lotus LMP, likely F1 again in 2015/2016...

Victor_RO · 11 Apr 2014, 20:06 (Ref:3391250)

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Originally Posted by ger80

Well, he is a lot more successful in Motorsports than me - F3 with Pierre Kaffer, DTM, Spyker F1, HRT F1, R10 LMP, Lotus LMP, likely F1 again in 2015/2016...

Yeah, but for most of those things, the common element is... not a very long project lifespan, generally for financial reasons.

ger80 · 11 Apr 2014, 20:08 (Ref:3391251)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Yeah, but for most of those things, the common element is... not a very long project lifespan, generally for financial reasons.

So you want him to be as boring as me and not try at all?

isynge · 11 Apr 2014, 21:56 (Ref:3391286)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Yeah, but for most of those things, the common element is... not a very long project lifespan, generally for financial reasons.

I'd love another long term privateer LMP1 entrant, but in the absence of anything like that I'll take Kolles come what may.

To give the guy credit he's brought a fair few cars to the WEC grid over the last few years in an environment when others with maybe more provenance have struggled to do so.

For 2014 I'll give him a break, look forward to seeing his car at Spa, and take what I've got for this year.

GT6 · 12 Apr 2014, 05:55 (Ref:3391389)

Totally agree Ian, if all we do is moan about people for trying then eventually no one will bother to enter private teams and then what do we have when the manufacturers leave

JoestForEver · 12 Apr 2014, 06:28 (Ref:3391395)

I do want them to make it sincerely but I don't want to see another WTCC Onyx-type-bubble from start to bust in WEC again. Come Kodewa guys! You can make it!

The Badger · 12 Apr 2014, 15:38 (Ref:3391493)

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Originally Posted by ger80

Well, he is a lot more successful in Motorsports than me - F3 with Pierre Kaffer, DTM, Spyker F1, HRT F1, R10 LMP, Lotus LMP, likely F1 again in 2015/2016...

If he was serious , he wouldn't be bouncing from championship to championship without accomplishing much , would he !

Simmi · 12 Apr 2014, 17:24 (Ref:3391521)

For those going to the track here are the sprinkling of Grandstands we can use:

isynge · 12 Apr 2014, 18:24 (Ref:3391536)

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Originally Posted by Simmi

For those going to the track here are the sprinkling of Grandstands we can use:

Fine for Sunday, okay for Saturday, and pretty underwhelming for Friday.

One takes what crumbs one can.

**Aysedasi** · 12 Apr 2014, 19:34 (Ref:3391551)

Enjoy the view from Becketts on Sunday.......

isynge · 12 Apr 2014, 20:25 (Ref:3391559)

Becketts being open on Sunday was the big one for me. It's got an incredible vista over so much of the track and I've really felt it being shut the last couple of years.

Somewhat disappointed with the offering on Saturday as I think I'm just as excited about the ELMS round, but saying that, it also serves to make the point that for a very flat track Silverstone over the years has managed to put together a pretty decent number of non-grandstand dependent viewing spots.

**Bentley03** · 13 Apr 2014, 07:40 (Ref:3391846)

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Originally Posted by isynge

Becketts being open on Sunday was the big one for me.

Likewise...best view on the circuit!

Gingers4Justice · 13 Apr 2014, 10:08 (Ref:3391881)

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Originally Posted by Bentley03

Likewise...best view on the circuit!

...and the windiest spot of Northamptonshire.

GT6 · 13 Apr 2014, 12:04 (Ref:3391916)

a good view yes but i seem to remember it as being a little confusing to many bits of the circuit in view at the same time

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Lotus	3	2.27%
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