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12 Sep 2004, 13:18 (Ref:1094009)
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Italian GP - contains spoilers
Bridgestone making the difference in the race - tricky in the early laps but much stronger pace in the cool conditions of the long runs.
Very well done to Barrichello. Good comeback from Schumacher, solid too from Button. Strong drive from David Coulthard - even being assaulted by Pizzonia. |
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12 Sep 2004, 13:21 (Ref:1094011)
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Schumacher spins, Barrichello on wrong setup and still a 1-2 finish....
I should've known... 
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12 Sep 2004, 13:23 (Ref:1094012)
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No need for cynicism - at least they had to do a bit of work for it this time - and Barrichello won fair and square.
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12 Sep 2004, 13:26 (Ref:1094015)
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They threw the dog a bone... RB wins.
More importantly we are in 2nd place!! JB did not have the pace to check out. He had a very good opening stint compared to TS. In fact it seemed TS had better times for the rest of the race. Good job by the team. I hope its only forward from here... Where did those red cars come from? Really!! 1 Rubens Barrichello (BRA) Ferrari 1:15:18.448 2 Michael Schumacher (GER) Ferrari 1.3 3 Jenson Button (GBR) BAR 10.1 4 Takuma Sato (JPN) BAR 15.3 5 Juan Pablo Montoya (COL) Williams 32.3 6 David Coulthard (GBR) McLaren 33.4 7 Antonio Pizzonia (BRA) Williams 33.7 8 Giancarlo Fisichella (ITA) Sauber 36.4 9 Mark Webber (AUS) Jaguar 55.0 10 Jarno Trulli (ITA) Renault 70.0 11 Ricardo Zonta (BRA) Toyota 78.0 12 Felipe Massa (BRA) Sauber at 1 lap 13 Christian Klien (AUT) Jaguar at 1 lap 14 Nick Heidfeld (GER) Jordan at 1 lap 15 Zsolt Baumgartner (HUN) Minardi at 2 laps 16 Gianmaria Bruni (ITA) Minardi out 17 Fernando Alonso (ESP) Renault out 18 Giorgio Pantano (ITA) Jordan out 19 Kimi Räikkönen (FIN) McLaren out 20 Olivier Panis (FRA) Toyota out |
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12 Sep 2004, 13:27 (Ref:1094016)
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I think its just the lack of pace of the rest of the grid that's making people get sick of the sight of Ferrari. They've become the Man Utd of the 90s.
At least the 'bridesmaid' as JA refered to him won though 
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12 Sep 2004, 13:34 (Ref:1094021)
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Great race, Schumacher drove the race of the season after his spin to come back and beat everyone but his team-mate. Good to see Barrichello win, though I would have liked the Ferraris to have raced at the end, would've been a great finish.
As James Allen said: "There are no team orders in Formula One" 
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12 Sep 2004, 13:40 (Ref:1094023)
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Great, crazy race - just confirms what we already know that we need more rain-affected races
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12 Sep 2004, 13:49 (Ref:1094032)
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The log from the live chat is now available at http://motorsport.alrob.com/logs.htm
Sorry about the confusion with the rooms, everything should be back to normal for the first running of the Shanghai International Circuit on the 26th September. Wens |
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12 Sep 2004, 13:51 (Ref:1094036)
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Nice to see MS works a little bit more than usual...not bad for an F1 senior citizen...
Rubens got pole, fastest lap of the race, and won after a mess of tire choice...fantastic job ...and hey, how did they got out of that mess is simply a fantastic teamwork... JB could have won today if not for the tires imo... Very good race from my point of view... |
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12 Sep 2004, 14:00 (Ref:1094041)
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Well atleast Ferrari were made to work for their win... incredible stuff from Michael Schumacher and Rubinho...
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12 Sep 2004, 14:01 (Ref:1094044)
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Pretty good race all in all, although I'm a bit disappointed that Jenson didn't have the speed to take it - with low downforce he might've been closer.
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12 Sep 2004, 14:14 (Ref:1094059)
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Super race - good win for Rubins, stunning drive again by TGF, and Jenson - well Jenson, so nearly there. Hope is grandad is OK!
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12 Sep 2004, 14:19 (Ref:1094063)
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i thought it was buttons day- and then a miraculous recovering ferrari showed why they have the WCC and WDC
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12 Sep 2004, 14:45 (Ref:1094073)
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The last ten laps was sooooo exciting! I mean, golly, MS was pushing sooooo hard to pass RB. RB really held him off there, lap after lap of intense pressure.
Whew! What a finish! Mike |
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12 Sep 2004, 14:47 (Ref:1094076)
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Exciting?
Don't read a book then, you might get a heartattack.
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12 Sep 2004, 14:50 (Ref:1094078)
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At the moment Ferrari just don't know how to lose, a fantastic effort after they looked likely to just be racing for points early in the race.
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12 Sep 2004, 14:51 (Ref:1094080)
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If anything, the last 10 laps were an anti-cimax.
They were cruising to the finish.....so quite where this "intense" finish was, I don't know. Great race overall though. |
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12 Sep 2004, 14:58 (Ref:1094094)
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Yeah but with Rubens out ahead after the final stop there was no way that they would be allowed to race each other...
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12 Sep 2004, 14:59 (Ref:1094095)
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I think the main reason why it was a great race was the fact that the Ferrari team did'nt take control of the race in the early stages of the gp. Just think if they did they could have won that race by a lap!. By the way was yesterday the last qualifying session we will see live in the 04 season?
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12 Sep 2004, 15:04 (Ref:1094098)
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I know p2p, if we hadn't had dodgy weather to begin with, it would have been Hungary 2004 all over again (albeit with overtaking lower down the order).
Yesterday was the final live qualifying, that's correct. |
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12 Sep 2004, 15:08 (Ref:1094102)
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Well Rubens is finally a "Bride" in James's books...
Congrats to MS and Rubens on a great occasion... wasnt Ruben's bride dress just terrific...
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12 Sep 2004, 15:09 (Ref:1094103)
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it was exiting . up to the MS pass over button ..
 .. it was a good race overall . with lots of passes . something we don;t usualy see at Monza ..
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12 Sep 2004, 15:57 (Ref:1094156)
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Unbelievable race, and an incredible finish by the Ferrari boys!
There isn't a team or driver out there, that could have come back to win this race like Ferrari did. No matter the strategy, conditions, or competition, you just cannot count these guys out, ever. The competition must be completely demoralized after this one. Really well done to Scuderia Ferrari! 
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12 Sep 2004, 16:42 (Ref:1094197)
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MS passing JB was nothing special. After all he was setting fast lap after fast lap. It seemed inevitable.
Ferrari have shown that they are in a league of their own. If the rules werent changing they could run this car next year and still possibly win the title. |
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12 Sep 2004, 16:43 (Ref:1094198)
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Haha..watching the race is great..
Seeing the sour faces of some desperados on the forum...CLASSIC!
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