GP Masters South Africa - post race discussion

Kicking-back · 13 Nov 2005, 13:01 (Ref:1459563)

Mansell and Fittpaldi - the world champions - a class apart

Some great battles with de Cesaris/Warwick/Lammers/Stuck

No silly moves - but the old guys still have it!

A thumbs up from me

Piglet · 13 Nov 2005, 13:07 (Ref:1459569)

Fantastic - as hindy said "bring it on!"

luke · 13 Nov 2005, 13:11 (Ref:1459572)

A little shame that there was not much moves in the first part but there was no silly mistakes really, and in the later part of the races some great hard racing.
Well done to Nige and Emmo and a great battle as everyone is a winner!

luke · 13 Nov 2005, 13:14 (Ref:1459573)

Btw I don't know but Gehard Berger is old enough to do GPM, does anyone think he would take part in it next year?

Kicking-back · 13 Nov 2005, 13:20 (Ref:1459578)

As far as I recall, Gerhard felt after the death of Michele Alboreto he wouldn't do any of this type of racing, because he'd be unable to stop himself getting too competitive.

SALEEN S7R · 13 Nov 2005, 13:29 (Ref:1459583)

Was a excellent race IMO. Yes Mansell and Fitapaldi were on their own out front but Patrese and co werent far behind, if the series is still around next year id expect all the drivers to be much fitter than what they are now. If that is the case I think that things will be a lot closer, Patrese only faded away towards the end really because of a slight lack of fitness compared to Mansell and Fitapaldi. IMO. Great racing and a great championship!

maximus · 13 Nov 2005, 14:18 (Ref:1459614)

A great race with battles all the way down the field. The Mansell Fittipaldi "Who can set the fastest lap" Battle was very entertaining, as was the 5 car battle for 5th.

Such a shame that Motors TV tried to ruin it with awful commentary and odd technical problems.

nickyf1 · 15 Nov 2005, 21:24 (Ref:1461685)

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Originally Posted by maximus

Such a shame that Motors TV tried to ruin it with awful commentary and odd technical problems.

whatcch it on the BBC with Murray then!

maximus · 16 Nov 2005, 19:37 (Ref:1462528)

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Originally Posted by nickyf1

whatcch it on the BBC with Murray then!

I did. But I wanted to watch it live as it happened. It doesn't mean I have to enjoy the way it was presented though, the BBC did a much better job, I enjoyed the race much more for some reason.

SALEEN S7R · 13 Nov 2005, 14:21 (Ref:1459617)

Tried to ruin it? Hmm, okay then. IMO though John Hindaugh did a fantastic job as usual, I forget who was in the commentary box with him but I admit he wasnt the best of commentators. Hindaugh though I thought did a great job considering the circumstances.

maximus · 13 Nov 2005, 15:05 (Ref:1459644)

Well IMO both were awful. One was way OTT and showed a lack of knowledge of who some of the drivers were and got the wrong end of the stick sometimes, with regards to what was going on. The other was knowledgable but was quite dull to listen to.

Kicking-back · 13 Nov 2005, 15:09 (Ref:1459646)

John Hindhaugh was just the same as he always is (if you like him, he was good, if you don't, he was poor)

Henry Hope-Frost was clearly knowledgeable but was duller than a dull thing.

I think I'll watch it again on BBC2 just for a Murray Walker fix!

luke · 13 Nov 2005, 15:34 (Ref:1459659)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

John Hindhaugh was just the same as he always is (if you like him, he was good, if you don't, he was poor)

Henry Hope-Frost was clearly knowledgeable but was duller than a dull thing.

I think I'll watch it again on BBC2 just for a Murray Walker fix!

Same here, and btw as stupid rugby is going over time it doesn't start ntill 4pm on BBC2.

chocmonster7 · 13 Nov 2005, 16:52 (Ref:1459702)

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Originally Posted by Kicking-back

John Hindhaugh was just the same as he always is (if you like him, he was good, if you don't, he was poor)

I think you've hit it right there - if you know Hindy's style then he was very entertaining (he is such a *fan*) - if you don't then he could be very annoying.

A great fun race even if my favourite Stefan Johansson went out early. Hope there is a full series to come - fingers crossed.

Patrese256 · 13 Nov 2005, 15:22 (Ref:1459654)

As the first race of what will hopefully become a series this was a great start. Everyone seemed cautious in the first few laps but as the race went on the 'racers instincts' came to the surface more and more. Stuck was spectacular, and the midfield battles between the likes of Lammers, Warwick, de Cesaris and Danner livened things up.

Credit to Mansell and Fittipaldi for putting on a great show at the front. Their performances will do wonders for the series as a whole, but I was delighted with Riccardo's performance as well.

Roll on more races in 2006

pink69 · 13 Nov 2005, 16:11 (Ref:1459682)

God its good to hear Murray Walkers voice again! I've missed him!

Dr Venom · 13 Nov 2005, 16:28 (Ref:1459691)

BBC, GP signature tune, murray, nigel, emo, what more do you need. this is a great race. roll on the full season with more drivers wanting to be a part of.

Dr Venom · 13 Nov 2005, 16:29 (Ref:1459692)

Murray has still got it.

The STIG · 13 Nov 2005, 17:11 (Ref:1459711)

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Originally Posted by Dr Venom

Murray has still got it.

He even put in a couple of "Murrayisms"

"You might think that both these cars are identical apart from the livery - and they are!"

"Mansell has won the most F1 Grand Prix of all drivers - except for Michael Shumacher, Aryrton Senna and Alain Prost"

jondownunder · 13 Nov 2005, 16:38 (Ref:1459696)

Superb race!! I really wasn't expecting racing as close as that... reminded me of Champ Car at its finest (especially with Mansell and Fittipaldi at the front) more than F1 of old though, not as though that's a bad thing. Amazing that Fittipaldi still has it

I have to admit after this weekend I've grown to like the appearance of the converted Reynards. The black "Team Phantom" liveried cars look particularly purposeful - very reminiscent of the first F1 Saubers.

924nut · 13 Nov 2005, 17:12 (Ref:1459713)

Brilliant - best motorsport entertainment in ages - yes they were always going to be a bit cautious early on but once they settled down they went for it be gave each other respect when in close quarters - thats a mark of a good racer (remember gilles and Rene at Dijon) As for "Our Nige" Fantastic - he was always in control but total admiration for Emo - He was Brilliant - How Old is He? I think he lost 20 years when he stepped into a fight with Mansell - and didnt they look happy about it

The STIG · 13 Nov 2005, 17:13 (Ref:1459716)

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Originally Posted by jondownunder

The black "Team Phantom" liveried cars look particularly purposeful - very reminiscent of the first F1 Saubers.

Apparently they were over heating more than any other car ... must be the black.

Dr Venom · 13 Nov 2005, 16:40 (Ref:1459697)

totaly agree, best race i have seen on the TV for a long time.

Dr Venom · 13 Nov 2005, 16:42 (Ref:1459698)

a real shame that the late James Hunt is no longer with us

Kicking-back · 13 Nov 2005, 16:49 (Ref:1459700)

Indeed.

Imagine Ayrton, Gilles and Michele Alboreto out there too

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