AMRC Round 2 Calder Park 26-27 April - Page 3

PVDA · 29 Apr 2008, 10:27 (Ref:2190010)

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Originally Posted by NewsStalker

(sort of like the football field in the outer eastern Melbourne Suburbs recently where it was the council at Silvan had completely re-done the playing field for the kids. And straight after the scores skyrocketed compared to previous years. Turned out when the council put the goal posts back in - they were one complete metre wider than they should have been - thus allowing a few more goals to take place!)

Didn't 3AW send someone out to measure the goal posts and found them to be within inches of the correct distance apart but we get your point.

Falcadore · 29 Apr 2008, 10:51 (Ref:2190031)

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Originally Posted by NewsStalker

They may have had 'the competitors interests at heart' but this also had the effect of alienting some simply because the 'rules were bent' to accomodate anyone and everyone - so the playing field wasn't always level (sort of like the football field in the outer eastern Melbourne Suburbs recently where it was the council at Silvan had completely re-done the playing field for the kids. And straight after the scores skyrocketed compared to previous years. Turned out when the council put the goal posts back in - they were one complete metre wider than they should have been - thus allowing a few more goals to take place!)

As the policies of the AASA sanctioning body in general is one of inclusion for all rather than to limit what cars can and cannot race, is not the AMRC just following one of AASA's basic tenets?

NewsStalker · 29 Apr 2008, 19:44 (Ref:2190484)

To a degree - but when cars turn up at a meetig that haven't been seen before or with larger than life engines (ie engines never seen in that type of car) and allowed to compete on supposedly 'equal playing ground' it was bound to turn some away whilst pleasing others.

Falcadore · 29 Apr 2008, 21:38 (Ref:2190600)

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Originally Posted by NewsStalker

To a degree - but when cars turn up at a meetig that haven't been seen before or with larger than life engines (ie engines never seen in that type of car) and allowed to compete on supposedly 'equal playing ground' it was bound to turn some away whilst pleasing others.

Except that a policy of inclusion will by its nature preclude 'equal playing ground'. There never was an 'equal playing ground' apart from if the car works, race it. So talk of 'equal playing ground' is perhaps misleading. What if someone brought along an unmodified Formula 1? Perfectly legal and perfectly able of lapping everything else.

This equal playing ground is largely a work of fiction.

NewsStalker · 30 Apr 2008, 02:45 (Ref:2190724)

And then seeing this start to happen starts putting off anyone interested in seeing the category race. Like everyo other category before it, as soon as you introduce a mongrel car that kills off everything else, you start to lose both credibility and potential fans.

Think Holden Monaro and Procar for the perfect example.

johnh875 · 30 Apr 2008, 06:49 (Ref:2190808)

I went out for a bit on Sunday afternoon, and while the fields were certainly small (except Thundersports) there was still some great racing/dicing in most races I saw. I got some pics too which I will share when I get the chance

PVDA · 30 Apr 2008, 07:49 (Ref:2190842)

I believe the Safety Car driver did a good job on the weekend

As did his observer

speedraced04 · 30 Apr 2008, 07:55 (Ref:2190848)

hehehe PVDA

all the officials did a great job, the weather wasnt the nicest

it always seems to be the same people helping out every time, it really is an amazing effort for a group of volunteers

bludvl_x19 · 30 Apr 2008, 07:56 (Ref:2190849)

I'm sure the observer enjoyed his weekend thouroghly (sp?) The Mazza must have made up for the ride with that joker in the Monaro

Mick

dumbrell_fan · 30 Apr 2008, 09:31 (Ref:2190928)

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Originally Posted by Matthew Ronke

I watched the same races and the Formosa - Saillard battle was worth watching. The pressure Saillard had Formosa under was intense. Formosa drove well to hold him out.

The same for the GT between Stevens Ferrari and the Lilley Lambo. They swapped the lead a couple of times and stevens would reign in some time on Lilley then Lilley would respond, it was good to watch.

The race of the day was undoubtedly the top 5 future racers battling it out. Swapping the lead each lap and cars going from 1st to fifth in a couple of laps and then working their way back to the lead. Clearihan managing to fox the Win and was pumping his fist each time he hit the lead.
It was like watching a 125Gp race.

The new cars with the big wheels look pretty hot and the racing with them is sensational.

Totally agree with you there!

BFC · 30 Apr 2008, 11:28 (Ref:2190975)

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Originally Posted by speedraced04

hehehe PVDA

all the officials did a great job, the weather wasnt the nicest

it always seems to be the same people helping out every time, it really is an amazing effort for a group of volunteers

Maybe it's the "I'm scared of CAMS syndrome" if any do a AASA meeting.

BFC · 30 Apr 2008, 11:30 (Ref:2190976)

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Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

I'm sure the observer enjoyed his weekend thouroghly (sp?) The Mazza must have made up for the ride with that joker in the Monaro

Mick

YEP

bludvl_x19 · 30 Apr 2008, 22:53 (Ref:2191445)

I'll try and get hold of those photos that were taken from the startline for you.

Mick

BFC · 30 Apr 2008, 23:54 (Ref:2191471)

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Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

I'll try and get hold of those photos that were taken from the startline for you.

Mick

Thnx M8

MPA · 1 May 2008, 12:32 (Ref:2191836)

Geeeze, I did not know this was going to turn into a CAMS vs BFC show.....

I'll put my money on BFC....

He'll sit there and say nothing until CAMS gives up......

As a hatted gent once said..... " He don't say much, but when he does, it's worth listening to"

BFC · 1 May 2008, 12:47 (Ref:2191846)

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Originally Posted by MPA

Geeeze, I did not know this was going to turn into a CAMS vs BFC show.....

I'll put my money on BFC....

He'll sit there and say nothing until CAMS gives up......

As a hatted gent once said..... " He don't say much, but when he does, it's worth listening to"

You know me too well!!!

MPA · 1 May 2008, 12:51 (Ref:2191850)

Yer taught me good, Ron.

Crash Test · 1 May 2008, 22:50 (Ref:2192213)

It seems as though there will be a decent field of Formula Rs at QR this weekend...

http://www.queenslandraceway.com.au/...EL_2008Rd1.pdf

alfacors · 2 May 2008, 03:07 (Ref:2192273)

Looks to be about 5 Formula Rs padded out with a couple of Formula Fords (Swift? Spectrum?) and some older F2s? Are F2s able to run to Formula R regs?

Falcadore · 4 May 2008, 10:38 (Ref:2193684)

All those cars are Formula R's apart from the Howard Group Spectrum of Mostert. What defines a Formula R is the spec Golf engine in the back.

Falcadore · 4 May 2008, 10:45 (Ref:2193687)

I've been told the OzBoss situation was created by the entry fees tripling to over $1100 since last season.

Is this a lie? Or even an exaggeration?

BFC · 4 May 2008, 13:58 (Ref:2193793)

$790 entry fee ......(from AMRC Ozboss site)

Falcadore · 5 May 2008, 01:16 (Ref:2194101)

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Originally Posted by BFC

$790 entry fee ......(from AMRC Ozboss site)

Thanks for clearing that up.

speedraced04 · 5 May 2008, 01:22 (Ref:2194102)

i thought that sounded expensive...until i found out how much the new "Australian Manufacturers Championship" costs

anyone else think that $3750 per round is a little excessive for production car racing?

alfacors · 5 May 2008, 07:42 (Ref:2194201)

How else would the organisers recoup costs when they cut the series back to only 4 rounds for the season?

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