Porsche 918 - Page 4

Speed-King · 10 Jan 2011, 15:25 (Ref:2813762)

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and breathes competition through every pore

No, it doesn't. Have you read the press release?!

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From the tradition established by classic Porsche long-distance race cars such as the 908 long-tail coupé (1969) and the 917 short-tail coupé (1971), the Porsche designers created a link to the postmodernism of the "form follows function" philosophy.

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With the new 918 RSR racing laboratory, Porsche is now elevating this motor racing hybrid concept to an experimental level. In the 918 RSR, "Porsche Intelligent Performance" equates to research into methods for further sustainable efficiency improvement under the intensified conditions of the race track, lap times, pit stops and reliability – a metier in which Porsche has been demonstrating its success for over 60 years.

Blargh....

That's pure PR-blabla... and I think that's true for the whole car.

But it's trending on twitter, so "Misssion accomplished", I'd say.

JAG · 10 Jan 2011, 16:53 (Ref:2813797)

Le Mans will reserve a couple of grid slots for experimental cars.

The 918 uses technology that could potentiality be used in P1 and 2013 GTE's (if the go ahead for hybrids is given).

Fogelhund · 10 Jan 2011, 17:04 (Ref:2813801)

As a Porsche fan, I do like the car quite a bit. Having said that, this is a PR stunt for now, as I find it interesting to debut a race car, but not mention once where they plan on racing.

ptclaus98 · 10 Jan 2011, 17:51 (Ref:2813817)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

Then why the hate?

Because he's a Ferrari fanboy?

ptclaus98 · 10 Jan 2011, 17:53 (Ref:2813820)

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Originally Posted by gustavobamba

Sincerely and with all due respect for all the comments, do not understand why they are so many people against the 918 taking part in competition.
It seems clear that this car is a laboratory for a future entry of Porsche in the LMP 1 category.
This car is fabulous , and breathes competition through every pore, let the crap, enjoy the car as it is and not whether it conforms to the rules.

Because they hate change?

carsten66 · 10 Jan 2011, 17:54 (Ref:2813821)

Great, Porsche rocks the boat... with a car we already know for several months... C'mon guys, keep calm and let's not cross that bridge until we come to it... by now it's quite simply a great looking car, isn't it?

dxk1 · 10 Jan 2011, 17:56 (Ref:2813824)

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Originally Posted by ptclaus98

Because he's a Ferrari fanboy?

take a look at the front end of the 918, looks alot like a Ferrari.

DK

Porsche917K · 10 Jan 2011, 18:29 (Ref:2813843)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

Great, Porsche rocks the boat... with a car we already know for several months... C'mon guys, keep calm and let's not cross that bridge until we come to it... by now it's quite simply a great looking car, isn't it?

Couldn't have said it better.

WMUCarGuy · 10 Jan 2011, 19:22 (Ref:2813867)

I'm fairly certain this show car doesn't have an engine installed in it.

gwyllion · 10 Jan 2011, 19:49 (Ref:2813877)

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Originally Posted by WMUCarGuy

I'm fairly certain this show car doesn't have an engine installed in it.

And how did the car drive on the stage in Detroit?

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW7lstH1TgY#t=1m29

Fogelhund · 10 Jan 2011, 20:02 (Ref:2813884)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

And how did the car drive on the stage in Detroit?

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW7lstH1TgY#t=1m29

It used the electric motors that had been precharged...

really, I don't know...

carsten66 · 10 Jan 2011, 22:01 (Ref:2813932)

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Originally Posted by dxk1

take a look at the front end of the 918, looks alot like a Ferrari.

DK

Don't agree... the 918 looks like a Porsche

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW7ls...eature=channel

and reminds of the 917

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=resu77vBKm0

gustavobamba · 10 Jan 2011, 22:25 (Ref:2813940)

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Originally Posted by carsten66

Great, Porsche rocks the boat... with a car we already know for several months... C'mon guys, keep calm and let's not cross that bridge until we come to it... by now it's quite simply a great looking car, isn't it?

I totally agree with you.

WMUCarGuy · 10 Jan 2011, 23:03 (Ref:2813947)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

And how did the car drive on the stage in Detroit?

See http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW7lstH1TgY#t=1m29

It could be on pure electric power, it could have just been rolling down a decline on the display. The engine is completely covered in this show car, and there's only the short vid of it rolling on stage and the computer generated video of it on track. All other moving shots of this car, it's being pushed by handlers. And I feel like they'd have featured the sound of the engine in that video of it rolling out if it were running. We'll have to wait get an account from someone that was at the unveil.

trahsub · 11 Jan 2011, 02:14 (Ref:2813985)

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Originally Posted by ptclaus98

Because they hate change?

Bingo! Web streams, hybrids, whyyyyyy? There's a series for those that don't like change . . .NASCAR. Leaded fuels, no fuel injection, you get it all folks, no tech upgrades since the 60s.

rich07 · 11 Jan 2011, 02:39 (Ref:2813992)

I can see this racing at the Nurburgring 24hr-but maybe with the GT3R engine and hybrid system modified to suit it, well thats my 2.2c. Im not sure if it will appear at Le Mans, if they can make an LMP out of this then I'd welcome it with open arms. As far as PR goes, they''re on a winner already, the car looks fantastic, inside and out.

Fogelhund · 11 Jan 2011, 03:33 (Ref:2814007)

http://www.porsche.com/918rsr

This didn't get built, as is, without knowing where it would race in advance.

Richard C · 11 Jan 2011, 04:16 (Ref:2814021)

The car looks fantastic and its great to see something new and exciting from Porsche.

I am looking forward to seeing it on track even if it isn't built to any spec in it's current form.

While I see lots of styling cues from previous Porsches, and I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it, I see a lot of the 904 in this car (which is a good thing in my opinion).

Catingaround · 11 Jan 2011, 05:27 (Ref:2814036)

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Originally Posted by Richard Casto

The car looks fantastic and its great to see something new and exciting from Porsche.

I am looking forward to seeing it on track even if it isn't built to any spec in it's current form.

While I see lots of styling cues from previous Porsches, and I don't know if anyone else has mentioned it, I see a lot of the 904 in this car (which is a good thing in my opinion).

I was thinking the same thing.

WMUCarGuy · 11 Jan 2011, 06:18 (Ref:2814047)

Anybody else get the idea that this new "Race Lab" would be the perfect testbed for developing the hybrid powertrain for a new LMP1? I know the last LMP1 was killed off a few months ago, but perhaps it could go into a car in the future.

Also anyone think we might see this run at Sebring/Petit in the GTH category. IMSA basically just created the class so the 911 Hybrid could run at Petit. So if it's running unclassified in a class by itself, why not let it run?

GT-Driver · 11 Jan 2011, 07:13 (Ref:2814055)

No Ofense, Porsche is indeed a great marquee, but shame on them. They will always be nothing morte than sporty VW Beetle.

They have the engine in the wrong place mate. They should have changed the place long back.

The thing is the 911 series is the heart and mainstay of porsche but very sad it can not realise the true porsche's engineering potential (because of its odd engine placement) to offer to the publice in the form of show room cars (production cars)

Their only field available is with LeMan prototypes but these are not really "cars" as we know it.

With the same premiuim engineering from porsche the 911 would handle much better if it had the engine in the mid or front.

That is why porsche doesnt want to make a powerfull Boxter or Cayman. because it would out perform ant 911 including GT2RS.

Same could be said on the Panmera, it is powerfull already but heavy relativly due to its size and long canin. But if they make a light version of it, even would still be heavier than GT2 RS (because the wheel base is very long and huge) but would out perform it anyway.

Why is that? Because it would be more balanced and more reliable corner after corner.

So I dont reallt care what another beetle porsche make and how better it is. I'm sure if it had the engine relocated it would have been best.

Cheers,

Spyderman · 11 Jan 2011, 07:59 (Ref:2814063)

...and what does this have to do with the 918?

Mal · 11 Jan 2011, 08:06 (Ref:2814066)

I cant believe the negative attitude to what is probably the start of another manufacturers entry into prototypes. It is a way of developing the technology without having to go up against their stablemate, Audi, or there own cars in GT2.

The autoweek article also refers to the start of a series of new production based race cars - so that could mean the 918 will be offered to customers for GT2 in the future instead of the 911 - maybe they finally feel they have gone as far as they can with the 911 as a race car??

To me this is an exciting start to a new chapter of Porsche at Le Mans.

Spyderman · 11 Jan 2011, 08:34 (Ref:2814077)

I'm with you Mal!

Tim the Grey · 11 Jan 2011, 10:05 (Ref:2814106)

I'm still trying to work out why somebody stuck Porker badges onto their Lotus Evora with a 430 front bumper?

Yes, it's great they've built it, but I'm struggling to see what it is going to run as, or in. If it comes close to LMP pace, the ACO will have it off track and away before Porsche can get it in the garage...

It's a great exercise, but fails to light my fire, as the 911 Hybrid does. That, at least, complies to some sort of rulebook.

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