What is Aston Martin up to? - Page 62

JayBMS · 17 Sep 2009, 19:05 (Ref:2542980)

Autosport Print ed reports the same. almost word for word.

they also say audi may pull out if the new aero regs mean the have to scap the R15

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2009, 19:11 (Ref:2542983)

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Originally Posted by JayBMS

Autosport Print ed reports the same. almost word for word.

they also say audi may pull out if the new aero regs mean the have to scap the R15

Audi will just race it in the ALMS, while working on an aero package that would legalize it for Le Mans.

As it seems they also plan on a new car for 2011.

L.P.

**joeb** · 17 Sep 2009, 20:26 (Ref:2543034)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Audi will just race it in the ALMS, while working on an aero package that would legalize it for Le Mans.

As it seems they also plan on a new car for 2011.

L.P.

But Audi would be none to happy to be excluded from the 24.

Back on topic, If Aston Martin was able to sell their 2009 cars to teams who want to race them next season, who would be interested - Speedy, Highcroft?

JayBMS · 17 Sep 2009, 20:52 (Ref:2543058)

I think I heard speedy was getting judd power

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2009, 21:42 (Ref:2543089)

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Originally Posted by joeb

But Audi would be none to happy to be excluded from the 24.

Back on topic, If Aston Martin was able to sell their 2009 cars to teams who want to race them next season, who would be interested - Speedy, Highcroft?

Firstly, I stated they would work on an aero package so they could race at Le Mans.
Secondly, I will be suprised if this is strongly enforced, if at all, in an interim, single, year. It seems it will be awfully expensive for every team to comply and may be re-thought. We shall see.

L.P.

The359 · 17 Sep 2009, 22:02 (Ref:2543097)

I wonder if Kolles might be looking to replace his Audis.

Canada ALMS fan · 17 Sep 2009, 22:43 (Ref:2543118)

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Originally Posted by joeb

But Audi would be none to happy to be excluded from the 24.

Back on topic, If Aston Martin was able to sell their 2009 cars to teams who want to race them next season, who would be interested - Speedy, Highcroft?

Highcroft would be great for a full season! We need to get at least one of those Astons in the ALMS, even if only for Sebring and/or Petit.

HORNDAWG · 17 Sep 2009, 23:03 (Ref:2543131)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

Highcroft would be great for a full season! We need to get at least one of those Astons in the ALMS, even if only for Sebring and/or Petit.

I'd rather see Patrón Highcroft back in the Acura!!!!!

L.P.

Canada ALMS fan · 18 Sep 2009, 00:01 (Ref:2543154)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I'd rather see Patrón Highcroft back in the Acura!!!!!

L.P.

It would be interesting to see the Lola Aston in the Patron livery. But this is all just supposition. How about Patron Highcroft Lola Aston and de Ferran Acura x 2?

It sounds like Acura may be gone completely though so the Highcroft idea might not be that far fetched...

Nordic · 18 Sep 2009, 06:46 (Ref:2543227)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I believe that it is an apples and oranges comparison though. The Rally effort is as a contractor to the mfg., (in the past Subaru) where Prodrive is paid for their services. The AMR relationship, is as a partner with Aston. Which are quite different scenarios from one another.

L.P.

Its all still money into Prodrive. Aston have always said the racing costs them nothing, so I would guess that prodrive are making a return from Gulf and the sale and servicing of P1 engines.

Prodrive is not a charity, its turning a buck somewhere, and as long as money can be made it will run in whatever series it feels able.

JayBMS · 18 Sep 2009, 12:31 (Ref:2543362)

didnt gigawave say they wanted a P1?

they may be too tied up with NISMO next year.

The Badger · 18 Sep 2009, 13:11 (Ref:2543381)

I reckon what we will see , Is Speedy Racing running two of this years Aston LMP1's next year .

HORNDAWG · 18 Sep 2009, 15:06 (Ref:2543445)

I do not think that will be the case.

L.P.

JayBMS · 18 Sep 2009, 15:22 (Ref:2543454)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I do not think that will be the case.

L.P.

Same here, dont know who would take them up though, shame drayson had a bad time with the Vantage, i would still like to see them put more effort into that.

knighty · 18 Sep 2009, 15:22 (Ref:2543455)

while I think the prospect of an aston LMP1 running in the ALMS would be fantastic, I think based on the fact the engine has been developed around the E10 race fuel for the LMS series - it will not be competitive against the cars running E85........they are allowed a 17% bigger restrictor and are reported to be pushing 800bhp.......this is why John Fields car is a missile........I do not expect the Astons or Orecas to be able to pull the high trap speeds that the intersport or Autocon cars are capable of........if Aston does beat these teams (which will probably happen!) it wil most likley be due to a better handling car, better aero and dare I say better drivers.

I will be surprised if Aston and Oreca turn up at PLM with cars capable of running E85, as thats a major re-work program.

JayBMS · 18 Sep 2009, 16:22 (Ref:2543480)

Amr arnt going to plm

Nordic · 19 Sep 2009, 13:08 (Ref:2543853)

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Originally Posted by AX lover

Charouz is selling the car, I don't know what AMR will do next year.

Rumour is that charouz is selling up with the intention of moving into F1, using the Renault team as a front to gain an entry.

Dave Richards would run the 'new' team.

Could be nothing more than a rumour, but stranger things have happened.

The Badger · 19 Sep 2009, 13:52 (Ref:2543860)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

I do not think that will be the case.

L.P.

Why not ?

They have said that they want to enter 2 Lola LMP1's in the LMS .

Charouz already run their LMP1 . With the Charouz ties to the factory I think that my suggestion is fairly logical , plus Charouz have their car for sale , which I suspect is the Speedy car , or not ?

If you want to win badly enough , you need something that nobody else has .

Whats your suggestion then ?

HORNDAWG · 19 Sep 2009, 15:23 (Ref:2543889)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Why not ?

They have said that they want to enter 2 Lola LMP1's in the LMS .

Charouz already run their LMP1 . With the Charouz ties to the factory I think that my suggestion is fairly logical , plus Charouz have their car for sale , which I suspect is the Speedy car , or not ?

If you want to win badly enough , you need something that nobody else has .

Whats your suggestion then ?

Money!!! Mainly.
Also the rules for 2010 make the Judd or AIM a better choice for engine as the homologated engines are being reeled in. And the monies being asked for the single used car is exhorbitant, and I would guess that the engine and spares packages would be somewhat inflated also. I also got the impression from the MWM show from Lola (4-#39) that Hugh Hayden was more of a Lola guy than AMR (just my impression).

As to who will pony up those type of £, €, ¥ or $ is beyond me.

Hell, they couldn't get the Lord to buy one, he went Lola/Judd, and he was an AMR partner team!

L.P.

deggis · 19 Sep 2009, 16:57 (Ref:2543914)

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Originally Posted by Nordic

Rumour is that charouz is selling up with the intention of moving into F1, using the Renault team as a front to gain an entry.

Is Charouz THAT rich?

WMUCarGuy · 19 Sep 2009, 17:48 (Ref:2543933)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Why not ?

They have said that they want to enter 2 Lola LMP1's in the LMS .

Charouz already run their LMP1 . With the Charouz ties to the factory I think that my suggestion is fairly logical , plus Charouz have their car for sale , which I suspect is the Speedy car , or not ?

If you want to win badly enough , you need something that nobody else has .

Whats your suggestion then ?

The Speedy car is B08/60 HU01 and the car for sale is B08/60 HU02. It's the car that Charouz ran for the final 2 races of the year in 2008 and they used it at Le Mans, and the final 2 LMS races this season as an Aston Martin.

Mirage M6 · 19 Sep 2009, 19:22 (Ref:2544004)

Seems that AMR has already sold number 007 and 009:

http://translate.google.es/translate...hl=es&ie=UTF-8

Graham Goodwin · 19 Sep 2009, 19:40 (Ref:2544014)

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Originally Posted by Mirage M6

Seems that AMR has already sold number 007 and 009:

http://translate.google.es/translate...hl=es&ie=UTF-8

No news there I'm afraid - This was David Richards back in February

“One important part of the package is that the two factory cars are already pre-sold to private collectors (who wish to remain anonymous). They will go to their new owners after the season is complete."

Tim the Grey · 19 Sep 2009, 21:13 (Ref:2544044)

Deggis, he may be that rich, but I doubt he's that stupid!

TWK · 19 Sep 2009, 22:14 (Ref:2544069)

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Originally Posted by The359

I wonder if Kolles might be looking to replace his Audis.

For what purpose? If you can neither drive nor engineer effectively what you've got.....?

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