Red Bull Unhappy

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Originally Posted by wolfhound

I liked RB up until a year or two ago but a number of things have started to make me rethink my view. Some of them are related to Horner and Ecclestones freindship.
RB's leaving FOTA and thereby breaking up the teams organisation.
RB getting a very good deal from Bernie.
All the complaining about tyres last year and then winning almost every GP when they got the tyres they wanted.
All the moaning about fuel flow sensors until they get the ones they want....
They are even complaining about rules they approved in relation to the unsafe relase at pit stops.

Well lets look at the history here.
1. Bernie is the friend of anyone who will do his bidding to help him get what he wants or his purpose. In that sense he maintains a friendship with everyone he considers useful to him.
2. Ferrari left FOTA first, then the Ferrari engine cars and a deal with RBR also helped STR along the way with their Ferrari engines.
3. Pirelli had everyone on their backs including a huge number of people on this forum over the tyres and don't forget Mercedes got an exclusive test session in Spain and were doing OK on results until RBR hit their stride. The tyres weren't built around the RBR like the Bridgestone's were for Ferrari
10-15 years ago.

In the late 90's RD and FW stood together for a better deal for the teams from Bernie's Concorde agreement. he hung them out and signed up everyone else on his terms and left them with a take it or leave it. Bernie can be quite ruthless. None of the team principals are unaware of that. They all make sure they stay on the right side of Bernie.
4. The fuel sensors is the FIA's method of deal with fuel in process. They should have been thoroughly tested before they were implemented but they weren't and LMP1 has some similar questions too, so its not just RBR. RBR happens to be a team that will push an issue to head because they want a proper answer and a problem properly dealt with, not smoke and mirrors. Contentious? Yes. But they are in a competition. Red Bull isn't a charity.
6.Pit lane release and loose wheels? The rule is to discourage a sloppy attitude toward tyre changes and pit lane conduct for teams and drivers. But idf an incident occurs and the team take care of it with a minmal threat to safety because they are responsible then why not just dismiss it as not a major infraction. we do that in effect with yellow flags. If you redeem a pass within a reasonable distance no penalty is issued. The biggest problem in F1 today is the 'automatic penalty' and a pedantic legalistic way of ruling on incidents and flicking off ridiculous penalties out of proportion to the offence. It will kill the sport.

If you think the people on 10tenths are dismayed you should take a skelter around the web and people in my circle. They are appalled at the way the sport is being administered, and nothing will turn them off faster than stupid, oppressive, and abusive penalties. It simply will not be a sport they want any part of any more. Engine noise? Bah. Nothing compared with this.

If people feel a sport is badly refereed or umpired they turn off. That's why most associations deal quickly with poor referee's or umpires. This is the biggest single issue facing the FIA right now and if left unattended it will have a significant effect on the sport over the next 12-18 months.