British F3 Donington

META4 · 22 Apr 2007, 16:53 (Ref:1897810)

Race1

1 7 Marko Asmer 30'33.25
2 1 Stephen Jelley 30'33.800 0.545
3 50 Greg Mansell 30'36.441 3.186
4 5 S.Hohenthal 30'38.978 5.723
5 2 Jonathan Kennard 30'39.815 6.560
6 14 E.Guerrieri 30'53.460 20.205
7 23 Maro Engel 30'53.784 20.529
8 4 Mário Moraes 30'53.924 20.669
9 26 Atte Mustonen 30'54.049 20.794
10 3 Sam Bird 30'54.916 21.661
11 22 Alberto Valério 30'56.778 23.523
12 9 Rodolfo Gonzalez 30'57.011 23.756
13 55 Michael Meadows 31'10.229 36.974
14 6 W.Grubmüller 31'10.574 37.319
15 31 Sergio Pérez 31'12.518 39.263
16 10 Ricardo Teixeira 31'15.693 42.438
17 35 Ali Jackson 31'30.645 57.390
18 39 Cheng Cong Fu 31'31.258 58.003
19 34 Alex Waters 31'31.775 58.520
20 61 Max Chilton 31'32.213 58.958
21 38 Hamed Al Fardan 31'33.184 59.929
22 8 F.Castellacci 31'38.880 1'05.625
23 77 S.Al-Khalifa 30'34.952 1 Lap
24 36 Alberto Costa 30'45.875 1 Lap
25 37 Viktor Jensen 31'29.810 1 Lap
26 15 Michael Devaney 31'37.675 2 Laps
27 33 Juan P.Garcia 30'46.651 6 Laps
-- 21 Niall Breen 24'30.885 Retirement
-- 32 Sean Petterson Retirement
-- 24 John Martin Retirement
-- 44 Leo Mansell Retirement

Good performance for Guerreri

Erki · 22 Apr 2007, 17:28 (Ref:1897820)

Race2:

1. Marko Asmer Hitech Racing Dallara-Mercedes 27mins 55.340secs 26 laps
2. Niall Breen Carlin Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +4.416s
3. Jonathan Kennard Raikkonen Robertson Racing Dallara-Mercedes +4.832s
4. Maro Engel Carlin Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +8.710secs
5. Alberto Valerio Carlin Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +11.184secs
6. Rodolfo Gonzalez T-Sport Dallara-Mugen Honda +12.413secs
7. Michael Devaney Ultimate Motorsport Mygale-Mercedes +20.735secs
8. Atte Mustonen Raikkonen Robertson Racing Dallara-Mercedes +21.290secs
9. Sam Bird Carlin Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +21.716secs
10. Sergio Perez T-Sport Dallara-Mugen Honda +47.438secs N
11. Michael Meadows Master Motorsport Dallara-Mugen Honda +47.868secs N
12. Frankie Cheng Performance Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +48.301secs N
13. Greg Mansell Fortec Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +56.195secs
14. Sean Petterson Fluid Motorsport Lola Dome-Mugen Honda +1m 01.355N
15. Ricardo Teixeira Performance Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +1m 02.302secs
16. Salman Al Khalifa Promatecme Dallara-Mugen Honda +1 lap N
17. Max Chilton Arena Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +1 lap I
18. John Martin Alan Docking Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +1 lap
19. Alistair Jackson Raikkonen Robertson Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +1 lap N
20. Viktor Jensen Alan Docking Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +1 lap N
21. Albert Costa Raikkonen Robertson Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +1 lap N
22. Esteban Guerrieri Ultimate Motorsport Mygale-Mercedes +1 lap
23. Sebastien Hohenthal Fortec Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes +1 lap
24. Hamad Al Fardan Performance Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda +1 lap N
25. Stephen Jelley Raikkonen Robertson Racing Dallara-Mercedes +2 laps

DNF. Mario Moraes Carlin Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes 17 laps completed
DNF. Juan Pablo Garcia Samano Fluid Motorsport Lola Dome-Mugen Honda 6 laps completed N
DNF. Leo Mansell Fortec Motorsport Dallara-Mercedes 6 laps completed
DNF. Francesco Castellacci Alan Docking Racing Dallara-Mugen Honda 4 laps completed
DNF. Walter Grubmuller Hitech Racing Dallara-Mercedes 3 laps completed
DNS. Alex Waters Promatecme Dallara-Mugen Honda Did not start N

2-1-1-1 for Marko, nice.

Mekola · 22 Apr 2007, 19:34 (Ref:1897894)

Mygale cars scored points!!!

Four for Guerrieri, three for Devaney.

Knowlesy · 22 Apr 2007, 19:36 (Ref:1897898)

Surprised to see Greg Mansell up there in race one.

Surely shome mistake?

Fan · 22 Apr 2007, 20:20 (Ref:1897948)

What happened to Morgado? Qualified but didn't race...

Bezzen · 22 Apr 2007, 20:38 (Ref:1897973)

Was there contact or something between Hohenthal and Jelley?

Alx · 22 Apr 2007, 21:53 (Ref:1898027)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Surprised to see Greg Mansell up there in race one.

Surely shome mistake?

Qualified 3rd and stayed there....

dave not neil · 22 Apr 2007, 21:59 (Ref:1898028)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Surprised to see Greg Mansell up there in race one.

Surely shome mistake?

Surprised?? Greg's the one that may have some talent. Had Leo been 3rd, then i would be more than surprised, as he is totally talentless!

strider · 22 Apr 2007, 22:49 (Ref:1898052)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fan

What happened to Morgado? Qualified but didn't race...

The car was withdrawn for techical reasons, but I don't know what they were. Probably a smart move in view of the unexpected improvement by the Mygales.

Gaz · 22 Apr 2007, 22:53 (Ref:1898055)

Much better racing than Oulton and it came down to mainly one thing - backmarkers. The fact that there are so many cars currently competing and that they are racing on a relatively small circuit meant that come 2 thirds distance the leaders were having to lap traffic - this led to some excellent action, Valerio's pass one Gonzalez at Schwantz Curve in the 2nd race was awesome and it was all down to the fact that Gonzalez was held up behind a backmarker. Now I'm not condoning backmarkers holding people up and on the whole they didn't purposefully but it certainly spiced things up! Without that I'm sure we would have been dealt 2 encounters as snoozeworthy as Oulton's.

Asmer was excellent all weekend and didn't put a foot wrong - dominating like he did this weekend is the only way he can boost his profile in my view as if he's anything special with his experience in F3 it's whats expected now.

I didn't see the initial incident in the 2nd race but there was a big sort out down the Craners and into the Old Hairpin which shuffled the order a great deal. Jelley went backwards and was fighting with Grubmuller but the two touched wheels going down the Craners and Grubmuller hit the tyre wall hard whilst Jelley spun across the infield was was mercifully lucky not to get collected when he spun back onto the circuit exiting Old Hairpin. Not to sure who to blame on that one but just before the contact Jelley had cut over the grass in his attempts to pass Grubmuller and clearly the red mist was down.

Greg Mansell was very impressive in the first race, Leo just seems to move from one accident to the other - it was similar stuff in BMW and surely it can't be long before Nigel takes stock of the situation and considers whether it's better backing one cause rather than two.

**bella** · 22 Apr 2007, 23:22 (Ref:1898066)

i just wonder whether both mansell brothers get equal amounts of assistance from daddy mansell. of course one is going to be better than the other, but leo should have improved by now, even if he is rubbish.

Alex K · 23 Apr 2007, 04:43 (Ref:1898189)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

The car was withdrawn for techical reasons, but I don't know what they were. Probably a smart move in view of the unexpected improvement by the Mygales.

He shoud expect that with Fluid, IMO he should change the team. I have nothing against Lindsay and the guys, but it is not a place to be in Morgado's position. Time to change, because he's already four races down.

mrsweety · 23 Apr 2007, 07:47 (Ref:1898270)

It's interesting you guys knock Leo do you think you could jump in and do better? I think all these guys are good drivers those F3's are very fast and hard to drive. Greg in 3rd is great tho.

dave not neil · 23 Apr 2007, 10:22 (Ref:1898381)

No, none of us could go quicker, but neither do we pretend to be racing drivers. Open your eyes and face the facts, he is useless.

Sev · 23 Apr 2007, 10:32 (Ref:1898392)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsweety

It's interesting you guys knock Leo do you think you could jump in and do better? I think all these guys are good drivers those F3's are very fast and hard to drive. Greg in 3rd is great tho.

Either you have some connection to those guys or you're just taking things way too badly dude.

Saying someone is out of their league is not by any means saying their bad, and that fact should be patently obvious to everyone.

Gaz · 23 Apr 2007, 10:39 (Ref:1898398)

I don't claim to be able to go quicker than Leo but it doesn't mean we can't comment on his performance. If your view was the way of the world there would be a lot of journalists out of a job!

I think useless is a bit harsh but when you look at his performances against his brother given the same experience and equipment it's clear to see he is struggling and doesn't have the same natural talent as Greg. Greg on the other hand has a lot of potential - ok he has a decent package underneath him but given his experience to finish 3rd in only your 3rd F3 race is a terrific achievement - I bet Murray is getting excited!

JohnMiller · 23 Apr 2007, 10:46 (Ref:1898405)

Minor point, fifth F3 race, but still a very good result.

Gaz · 23 Apr 2007, 10:51 (Ref:1898413)

Good point - forgot about Thruxton!

Knowlesy · 23 Apr 2007, 11:24 (Ref:1898437)

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave not neil

Surprised?? Greg's the one that may have some talent. Had Leo been 3rd, then i would be more than surprised, as he is totally talentless!

Agree with you on all counts, but I didn't expect Greg up on a podium so soon that's all.

Leo is pants.

**bella** · 23 Apr 2007, 11:50 (Ref:1898467)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaz

. If your view was the way of the world there would be a lot of journalists out of a job!

well you know what they say, if you can't do it, write about it.
why do you think mills and boon took off so well?

er, back on topic, i think it's worth waving the hohenthal (sp) flag a bit at this point in the trumpeting of the mansells. didn't get half as much testing in, and he's ahead on points in the series table so far.

nuff sed.

Knowlesy · 23 Apr 2007, 11:57 (Ref:1898478)

OK, how did Teixeira get 16th and 15th then? These results are confusing in some ways.

I will just have to tune in on MotorsTV when they show it and figure it all out!

**bella** · 23 Apr 2007, 11:58 (Ref:1898481)

not wanting to start a fight, but thanks to some decent driver coaching and a sound engineer, he's not actually that bad any more...

Knowlesy · 23 Apr 2007, 12:01 (Ref:1898485)

No, not wanting to start a fight. Just it's a big difference to what I remember from a rather ignominious 2006 campaign!

His improvement can only be a good thing.

Gaz · 23 Apr 2007, 12:13 (Ref:1898500)

Hohenthal has made an excellent start to the season and I rate him highly but comparing him with the Mansell's is not entirely fair - although they both drive with the same package and undoubtedly in a Mansell orientated team it must be quite tough he has still a massive experience advantage over them in car racing terms.

Obizzz · 23 Apr 2007, 12:16 (Ref:1898504)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bella

sound engineer

So he's got the best exhaust note of the field then?

Sorry for the OT.. I just had to

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