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19 Oct 2007, 16:10 (Ref:2044657)
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Lewis under investigation again!
He just can't stay out of trouble it seems! This time he was deemed to have used two sets of wets during the first free practice. Button and Sato are in the dock for this too.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/63425 10 place penalty then? |
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19 Oct 2007, 16:14 (Ref:2044660)
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Isn't this the kind of basic thing that the teams ought to know about?
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19 Oct 2007, 16:17 (Ref:2044665)
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Oh dear. Basic error if true but it happens i suppose. Look at Massa and the no fuel at Hungary.
I didn't know this rule existed BTW. Is this the reason Fernando didn't run at all in Free 1. To save his tyres for Free 2. Last edited by ralf fan; 19 Oct 2007 at 16:22. |
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19 Oct 2007, 16:25 (Ref:2044675)
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It'll be a conspiracy to some people whatever the outcome is of this investigation
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19 Oct 2007, 16:39 (Ref:2044687)
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SpeedTV is now reporting that Hamilton's race engineer said they used one set of wets and one set of inters in P1.
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19 Oct 2007, 19:55 (Ref:2044880)
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The race engineer has now been proven to be telling something less than the truth. By his boss. With 1,000 staff there is a lot of room for people to not have the same standards as Ron |
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19 Oct 2007, 20:05 (Ref:2044883)
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I don't follow you here I'm afraid? Am I missing a bit of factual info?
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19 Oct 2007, 20:48 (Ref:2044911)
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19 Oct 2007, 20:49 (Ref:2044914)
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The FIA Stewards have ruled that Lewis Hamilton should be penalised for using two sets of wet tyres on Friday morning - but the fine of $22,000 and a voluntary agreement to surrender the partially-worn wets to the FIA so that they cannot be used.
Takuma Sato and Jenson Button received the same penalties. |
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19 Oct 2007, 16:40 (Ref:2044688)
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Surely this error must lay with McLaren and as they can't earn any championship points as a team then what's the point in potentially moving Hamilton back on the grid?
Fine McLaren perhaps but leave the driver alone. |
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19 Oct 2007, 16:44 (Ref:2044693)
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19 Oct 2007, 16:41 (Ref:2044690)
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Speed TV are reporting on air that Lewis' engineer claims Lewis used one set of extreme wets and one set of intermediates - not two sets of extreme wets. If true he should escape sanction as you are not allowed to use two of the same tyre type.
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19 Oct 2007, 16:43 (Ref:2044691)
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However, if the report is incorrect and the team messed up the tire allocation, it should be Lewis leaving McLaren, not Alonso.
Lewis needs to find a team that understands tires. He'll be driving for Bridgestone next season. 
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19 Oct 2007, 16:47 (Ref:2044698)
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A 5 place grid penalty would make things very interesting.
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19 Oct 2007, 16:53 (Ref:2044708)
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If McLaren's got an FIA Steward in their garage then why did he let this happen? Does he know the rules or is he only looking after Alonso's interest's?
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19 Oct 2007, 16:54 (Ref:2044711)
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19 Oct 2007, 17:00 (Ref:2044721)
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Well maybe the FIA should give Hamilton his own Steward as it appears McLaren are trying to scupper his title chances!
McLaren left him out far too long in China and now they appear to have broken the rules in practice. Hamilton is in more need of a personal Steward than Alonso! |
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19 Oct 2007, 21:39 (Ref:2044973)
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Does a football referee prevent a player from making a poor tackle that would result in a free kick? The steward is there to report infractions of the rules, not prevent them from happening. |
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19 Oct 2007, 22:43 (Ref:2045012)
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I wouldn't be surprised if every driver on the grid was unaware of the rule.They would have expected someone in their team to have read the rule book beforehand.They'll have been some red faces in a few garages I bet.
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19 Oct 2007, 16:49 (Ref:2044703)
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19 Oct 2007, 17:48 (Ref:2044780)
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I've got a horrible horrible sinking feeling that he is going to be put back 10 places on the grid and then have alonso qualify on pole. Arrrrrgh. |
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19 Oct 2007, 18:19 (Ref:2044807)
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I think the only realistic penalties applied have been 5 and 10 place drops and expect to see one of those if any penalty is warranted. |
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19 Oct 2007, 17:02 (Ref:2044723)
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The steward is there to ensure equality, not give the team any help (not that it matters, as he isn't there today).
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19 Oct 2007, 17:05 (Ref:2044726)
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Well in that case send Alonso out on 2 sets of the wrong tyres and then they'll be equal!
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19 Oct 2007, 17:07 (Ref:2044730)
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Well on that basis, surely Alonso should have been sent out with the same equipment...
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