Audi LMP1 Discussion - Page 193

MyNameIsNigel · 23 Sep 2013, 07:34 (Ref:3307992)

Worth noting that Audi's victory at Austin was their 100th LMP overall victory apparently. Well done to them.

100 LMP overall victories since their first victory at Sebring on March 18th, 2000. That is quite an achievement.

TF110 · 24 Sep 2013, 04:52 (Ref:3308553)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

According to http://www.racer.com/rebellion-r-one...rticle/312074/ Audi start track testing the 2014 car soon:

According to radio lemans' twitter, Ulrich hopes to have the 2014 car run in October https://twitter.com/matlemans/status/381717631641743360

FstrthnU · 24 Sep 2013, 20:33 (Ref:3308898)

http://www.racer.com/muller-in-conte...rticle/313133/

Nico Muller possibly in contention for a seat with Audi next year

CTD · 24 Sep 2013, 20:49 (Ref:3308903)

I don't see him in an Audi LMP next year - they have 3 good teams now, why chance in it.

However he could be interesting when Tom K and Allan McNish retires.

gwyllion · 27 Sep 2013, 09:56 (Ref:3309958)

According to http://www.benoittreluyer.com/bt/en/...e-in-the-west/ Treluyer offered to double stint the tyres as a guinea pig for the sister Audi.

Quote:

After this Benoît took over for his first stint. Though the sun was shining the temperature remained reasonable, so the Frenchman offered to run a second.
“I said that I could continue, thinking that we’d keep the same tyres in order to do some testing that may help the leading car, but the decision was made to change them. At the end of my second stint I again said that it was possible to continue with the same set so I kept going, this time with the same tyres.”

MyNameIsNigel · 27 Sep 2013, 10:07 (Ref:3309959)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

According to http://www.benoittreluyer.com/bt/en/...e-in-the-west/ Treluyer offered to double stint the tyres as a guinea pig for the sister Audi.

Duval also confirmed this in a statement reported by endurance-info.com:

Quote:

(...) C'est dommage que l'Audi n°1 ait connu ses problèmes. Toutefois, je tiens à remercier son équipage d'avoir joué une superbe course d'équipe et de s'être prêté pour nous au test des doubles relais afin que nous puissions adopter la meilleure stratégie face à la menace de Toyota. (...)

LMP1 · 27 Sep 2013, 13:25 (Ref:3310053)

I have been busy going through the record books (wikipedia!) on my day off and thought it would be nice to share this list with other sports car fans.

--------------------------------------.

Here is a comprehensive list of all 100 of Audi's overall LMP victories.

2000 ALMS Sebring
2000 ALMS Sears Point
2000 24hrs of Le Mans
2000 ALMS Mosport
2000 ALMS Texas
2000 ALMS Portland
2000 ALMS Road Atlanta
2000 ALMS Laguna Seca
2000 ALMS Las Vegas
2000 ALMS Adelaide

2001 ALMS Texas
2001 ALMS Sebring
2001 ALMS Donington
2001 ALMS Jarama
2001 24hrs of Le Mans
2001 ALMS Sears Point
2001 ALMS Mosport
2001 ALMS Laguna Seca
2001 ALMS Road Atlanta

2002 ALMS Sebring
2002 24hrs of Le Mans
2002 ALMS Mid-Ohio
2002 ALMS Road America
2002 ALMS Trois-Rivieres
2002 ALMS Mosport
2002 ALMS Laguna Seca
2002 ALMS Miami
2002 ALMS Road Atlanta

2003 ALMS Sebring
2003 ALMS Road Atlanta
2003 ALMS Infineon
2003 ALMS Trois-Rivieres
2003 ALMS Mosport
2003 ALMS Road America
2003 ALMS Laguna Seca
2003 ALMS Miami
2003 ALMS Road Atlanta
2003 1000km of Le Mans

2004 ALMS Sebring
2004 1000km of Monza
2004 24hrs of Le Mans
2004 ALMS Mid-Ohio
2004 LMES 1000km of Nurburgring
2004 ALMS Lime Rock
2004 ALMS Infineon
2004 ALMS Portland
2004 LMES 1000km of Silverstone
2004 ALMS Road America
2004 LMES 1000km of Spa-Francorchamps
2004 ALMS Road Atlanta
2004 ALMS Laguna Seca

2005 ALMS Sebring
2005 ALMS Road Atlanta
2005 24hrs of Le Mans
2005 ALMS Lime Rock
2005 ALMS Infineon
2005 ALMS Portland
2005 LMES 1000km of Silverstone
2005 ALMS Road America
2005 ALMS Road Atlanta

2006 ALMS Sebring
2006 ALMS Reliant Park
2006 24hrs of Le Mans
2006 ALMS Mid-Ohio
2006 ALMS Lime Rock
2006 ALMS Miller
2006 ALMS Portland
2006 ALMS Road America
2006 ALMS Mosport
2006 ALMS Road Atlanta
2006 ALMS Laguna Seca

2007 ALMS Sebring
2007 ALMS St Petersburg
2007 24hrs of Le Mans
2007 ALMS Road Atlanta
2007 ALMS Laguna Seca

2008 ALMS St Petersburg
2008 ALMS Long Beach
2008 24hrs of Le Mans
2008 ALMS Mid-Ohio
2008 ALMS Road America
2008 1000km of Silverstone
2008 ALMS Mosport
2008 ALMS Road Atlanta
2008 ALMS Laguna Seca

2009 ALMS 12hrs of Sebring

2010 8hrs of Le Castellet
2010 24hrs of Lemans

2011 24hrs of Lemans

2012 WEC 6hrs of Sebring
2012 WEC 6hrs of Spa-Francorchamps
2012 WEC 24hrs of Le Mans
2012 WEC 6hrs of Silverstone
2012 WEC 6hrs of Bahrain

2013 ALMS Sebring
2013 WEC 6hrs of Silverstone
2013 WEC 6hrs of Spa-Francorchamps
2013 WEC 24hrs of Le Mans
2013 WEC 6hrs of Sau Paulo
2013 WEC 6hrs of Circuit of the Americas

Simmi · 27 Sep 2013, 13:38 (Ref:3310059)

Cool to see the list, thanks!

You can also clearly see the three years where they had some real competition.

CyberMotor · 27 Sep 2013, 14:24 (Ref:3310078)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMP1

[COLOR=black][FONT=Calibri]I have been busy going through the record books (wikipedia!) on my day off and thought it would be nice to share this list with other sports car fans.

Impressive accomplishments! (I noticed that Road Atlanta/PLM 2001 is missing)

LMP1 · 27 Sep 2013, 15:16 (Ref:3310095)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

Impressive accomplishments! (I noticed that Road Atlanta/PLM 2001 is missing)

I have accidentally typed "2001 ALMS Road America" instead of "Road Atlanta" - but if the rest is sound then 99% accuracy is
not bad!

gwyllion · 27 Sep 2013, 15:20 (Ref:3310098)

I just fixed that typo for you

LMP1 · 27 Sep 2013, 15:20 (Ref:3310099)

Thanks for the correction guys!

vincegail · 27 Sep 2013, 15:37 (Ref:3310107)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Cool to see the list, thanks!

You can also clearly see the three years where they had some real competition.

Yes indeed. Pretty obvious when you see it presented this way.

CyberMotor · 27 Sep 2013, 15:55 (Ref:3310119)

Quote:

Originally Posted by LMP1

I have accidentally typed "2001 ALMS Road America" instead of "Road Atlanta" - but if the rest is sound then 99% accuracy is
not bad!

Hey, I've done the same thing. These days, copy-and-paste, duplicate and auto-completion cause my most errors. You start typing Road A and it auto-completes to 'merica' rather than 'tlanta'.

Thanks for the work!

To make sure, I looked up a cover I had created for the winners. Audi 1-2-3!

Mechanic Z · 28 Sep 2013, 01:35 (Ref:3310295)

Wow, that is an incredible list of accomplishments! It doesn't seem that long ago that some of those wins happened.
Neat to see it all written out, LMP1.

TF110 · 28 Sep 2013, 08:22 (Ref:3310354)

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Originally Posted by vincegail

Yes indeed. Pretty obvious when you see it presented this way.

Competition from another factory diesel

. Audi have been around for quite some time. About 15 years now for the top class? 2009 was not their year at all, but every other year theyve won either LeMans or the majority of the races.

MyNameIsNigel · 1 Oct 2013, 10:25 (Ref:3311373)

An interesting Shakedown video where we get some info about Audi's future motorsport plans. Video includes a short interview of McNish as well as some info gathered by Leo Parente as a result of a one-hour discussion with Dr. Baretzky.

- confirmed: no DP by Audi ("never" according to Dr. Baretzky)
- Indycar plans: "maybe if they get the rules right"
- F1: no way considering the current "inflexible" rules
- the next "R18" will be even more car relevant (will we see the "air hybrid system" be raced next year ?)

and...

Baretzky: "Audi will always race"

CTD · 2 Oct 2013, 20:48 (Ref:3311980)

Sounds good.
But let's remember Peugeot also still races - the question is never "will they race or not", it's more "on what plan will they race"

TF110 · 3 Oct 2013, 04:08 (Ref:3312090)

Thats like saying Ford or Chevy will always race... in Nascar. Audi will always be around in DTM or GT if not in lmp.

MyNameIsNigel · 3 Oct 2013, 08:34 (Ref:3312173)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Thats like saying Ford or Chevy will always race... in Nascar. Audi will always be around in DTM or GT if not in lmp.

I forgot to mention that Leo Parente also reports that Baretzky believes that the BoP in GT is BS. In that respect, while we may still see "customer" involvement in GT, GT is unlikely to be or become Audi's primary involvement in motorsports IMHO.

DTM is surely important in Germany, but I honestly doubt that this is the best platform to showcase Audi's technology. DTM is basically a "closed spec" formula which does not offer any freedom to try new technology on the track. You may further wonder in which respect DTM is "road car relevant".

While the "road car relevance" argument has some limits, the current LMP regulation at least constitutes the best opportunity for Audi to showcase their technology. As long as the LMP rules provide such freedom (and the 2014-rules increase this freedom even more), you can bet that Audi will still be around running a LMP1 programme.

Lagunaseca_4life · 4 Oct 2013, 02:40 (Ref:3312591)

I read it more as Audi will only race where the regulations allow them to dominate.

TF110 · 4 Oct 2013, 04:55 (Ref:3312611)

If DTM move towards SuperGT's 2 liter turbo 4's with hybrid power, that is production car relevant. More so than a flywheel hybrid system on a diesel since they currently sell 0 hybrid diesels.

MyNameIsNigel · 4 Oct 2013, 05:44 (Ref:3312614)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

If DTM move towards SuperGT's 2 liter turbo 4's with hybrid power, that is production car relevant. More so than a flywheel hybrid system on a diesel since they currently sell 0 hybrid diesels.

But that would once again amount to a spec engine with no or barely any technical freedom. As of today, LMP is the only place where Audi can track test new technology in race conditions, such as the compressed air system that would be even more car relevant than any hybrid system that requires costly energy storage systems (whether it be flywheel, supercapacitor or batteries).

TF110 · 4 Oct 2013, 09:35 (Ref:3312673)

Who said its spec? If they even move to combine the two types of cars there should be more freedom in the engine/hybrid area. That's the road car relation. Audi isn't big on hybrid anyway so diesel is probably where they'll market themselves and stay in competition. At least for the time being.

MyNameIsNigel · 4 Oct 2013, 16:54 (Ref:3312820)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Who said its spec? If they even move to combine the two types of cars there should be more freedom in the engine/hybrid area. That's the road car relation. Audi isn't big on hybrid anyway so diesel is probably where they'll market themselves and stay in competition. At least for the time being.

Well, the future DTM/Super GT engines are going to be "spec engines" at least in the sense that they will all have to be two-litres turbos by 2016 at the latest AFAIK. That restricts the freedom in the engine area to a certain extent, doesn't it ?

In any event, my point is that the current LMP regulations are the ideal platform to allow Audi to test innovations and showcase their technology. They have more or less total freedom on the engine and hybrid side, at least far more than under the DTM/Super GT rules (or F1 rules... or Indycar rules... pick your choice). As long as this stays like that - and putting politics aside - there is objectively no reason for Audi to leave the LMP arena.

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