V8ST - 2014

[Goat Boy]

Always has in motorsport. The higher you go, the louder it gets...

[Biggy G]

Can we speculate on who's going?

Gibson?
Haber?
Lockwood? (Bairdo's old ride)
Mclaughlin?
McLennan?
Bell?
Edgell?
Heimgartner
Pedersen?
Booth?
Cunningham?
Evans?
Gaunt?
Fogg?
Moore?
Murph?
Storey?
Waite?
Hyundai?
Maverick?

Pick and choose 14 or so of that lot? No new teams have been announced have they?

[Pro Racer]

Originally Posted by 20b

Morgan Haber will be replacing Paul Manuell. He's had some fairly average results in the DVS series, with a best of 11th. Money talks eh.

yep i assume he is being helped along in this venture by Maurie Pickering just as he is out here?????

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by Biggy G

Can we speculate on who's going?

Gibson?
Haber?
Lockwood? (Bairdo's old ride) Not going new driver.
Mclaughlin? No, pulled out today
McLennan? Yes
Bell? ?
Edgell? Yes
Heimgartner Yes
Pedersen? ?
Booth? NO
Cunningham?
Evans?
Gaunt? NO, that other guy has the drive, and not going
Fogg?
Moore?
Murph?
Storey?
Waite? you have 2 drivers for the same team.
Hyundai? lol no
Maverick? nope

Pick and choose 14 or so of that lot? No new teams have been announced have they?

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[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by Just Do It!

What's a season cost to run in SuperTourers??

Allow north of a quarter mill - realistically $300k

[promax]

is V8 Challenge Cup alive, dead, or just been swept under the carpet and forgotten about?

[Motorman101]

Mountainstar has identified part of the problem, and I’d like to expand on it.

V8ST’s problem is that they have tried to run their season over a calendar year, just like V8SC. That might be OK in Australia but it doesn’t work here.

Circuit racing in NZ is a SUMMER sport, for obvious reasons. It makes no sense to have a ‘season’ finishing in November and the next one starting in February with a big gap over winter.

In trying to differentiate them from NZV8, V8ST have shot themselves in the foot by running a series over a calendar year.

What is the answer?

I say to V8ST:

1. Run the single-driver sprint series over the summer months along traditional lines.

2. Run two or three endurance races as a separate series. Have them as close to the Aussie V8SC endurance races as is reasonably possible in order to keep some Aussie driver involvement.

The poorer weather of late winter/spring is more suited to endurance racing. In fact, the changeable weather over a long distance race makes it more interesting.

Shorter sprint races need the sunshine and warmth of summer.

Having both V8ST and NZV8 going head-to-head over the summer will hopefully force an end to the split. They will either have to get into bed together or slug it out until the death of one of them. Either way it will stop the senseless splitting of meagre resources.

[mountainstar]

Originally Posted by promax

is V8 Challenge Cup alive, dead, or just been swept under the carpet and forgotten about?

I don't hear much about it.

[Biggy G]

Just 12 V8ST's....

Greg Murphy, Richard Moore and Morgan Haber (M3 Racing), Mark Gibson (John McIntyre Racing), Simon Evans (Team4), Tim Edgell (Tim Edgell Racing), Mitch Cunningham (Cunningham Construction), Angus Fogg (Angus Fogg Racing), Eddie Bell (Bell Racing), Simon McLennan (M2 Motorsport), André Heimgartner (Motorsport Networks) and Ant Pederson (International Motorsport).

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[CDM]

Originally Posted by Biggy G

Just 12 V8ST's....

Cant see that being very spectacular with such a small number of cars on that big circuit...

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Sure, expect a small entry.

10 cars +/- 2

I got that right.

[Biggy G]

The new Evans Team4 car, same design, black base, took me a second to pick up it wasn't Peak on the side but smeg instead.



and for those that hadnt seen it, Gibson's JMR ride:

[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by Biggy G

Just 12 V8ST's....

And looking at the timetable, no support classes. Is that right (anyone)?

[bluespur]

the four classes are TRS, V8ST, Utes and Central Muscle Cars

[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by bluespur

the four classes are TRS, V8ST, Utes and Central Muscle Cars

Thanks. I can't understand why they aren't included in the timetable on the V8ST site though. Go figure!

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by on_to_it

Thanks. I can't understand why they aren't included in the timetable on the V8ST site though. Go figure!

Simple answer OTI, its not a V8ST meeting its actually a Highlands park meeting.

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

Simple answer OTI, its not a V8ST meeting its actually a Highlands park meeting.

Just to expand on this, highlands way or highway. TV is all highlands, everything is highlands.

They promote and do tv etc, why race and and get stuff all racing time and be dictated by mr quinn on what you can and cant do.

[Southern Man]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Just to expand on this, highlands way or highway. TV is all highlands, everything is highlands.

They promote and do tv etc, why race and and get stuff all racing time and be dictated by mr quinn on what you can and cant do.

Probably because you are a guest at his place.

[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Probably because you are a guest at his place.

Hey Blackpearl, Southern Man is right you know. If you front the dough, you own the show. Accept that or move on.

[Mark Petch]

Originally Posted by on_to_it

Hey Blackpearl, Southern Man is right you know. If you front the dough, you own the show. Accept that or move on.

OTI, agreed, however a number of V8ST teams already voted with their feet because of the cost's involved in competing at Highlands and I suspect that this will be the first and last time for V8ST down here.

Teretonga is offering a much better deal all round, so if the teams do vote to come back to the South island a second time, I believe Teretonga will get the big tick.

Like a lot of things the "all new" novelty soon wears off, and to counter that you need a large welcoming mat, and I see no evidence of that down here.

[on_to_it]

Originally Posted by Mark Petch

OTI, agreed, however a number of V8ST teams already voted with their feet because of the cost's involved in competing at Highlands and I suspect that this will be the first and last time for V8ST down here.

I'm under the impression that the tight time-frame between the end of the 2013 season and the start of the 2014 one, was another factor impacting on some teams deciding not to go. But you're right, it's very expensive without much "bang for your buck" when several teams are struggling for funds.

I've heard some grizzles about the place too, so why is the welcome so underwhelming do you think?

[mountainstar]

Yes, elsewhere Highlands seems well received.

Since the start V8ST has seemed reluctant to go down south, but that's a choice they have to make whether they are a national championship or not.

[promax]

wasn't Teretonga considered a car wreaker and too far away? what's changed?

[Southern Man]

Race 1 Murph from Andre then Ant. Eddie a DNS after spectacular engine blow in the qualifying sessions. Foggy had a major hit on the wall of the Start /finish straight all on his lonesome which ended up effecting a couple of others including Mitch who took no further part in the proceedings. Near race end Simon was another to suffer and engine failure. Sure going to be some midnight oil spent tonight.

race-monitor.com is carrying live timing from the meeting

[onza]

Originally Posted by Southern Man

Race 1 Murph from Andre then Ant. Eddie a DNS after spectacular engine blow in the qualifying sessions. Foggy had a major hit on the wall of the Start /finish straight all on his lonesome which ended up effecting a couple of others including Mitch who took no further part in the proceedings. Near race end Simon was another to suffer and engine failure. Sure going to be some midnight oil spent tonight.

race-monitor.com is carrying live timing from the meeting

Simon Evans or Mclennan?