Senna's argument with irvine

RWC · 29 Jan 2003, 02:38 (Ref:488967)

http://www.thesennafiles.com/senna/suzuka.html
Nice little link there to the transcript of what was said when Senna accosted irvine after the suzuka GP,Funny stuff!
Interesting too.It even looks a little like irvine wasn't just trying to fob him off

Lee Janotta · 29 Jan 2003, 06:09 (Ref:489054)

I can't imagine what anyone would complain about. Eddie was being an arse, Ayrton punched him in the head... Problem solved.

f1manoz · 29 Jan 2003, 08:21 (Ref:489121)

Sometimes some people, such as Irvine, need a good punch in the mouth.

Valve Bounce · 29 Jan 2003, 09:53 (Ref:489175)

Hey!! That's really funny

Mr V · 29 Jan 2003, 10:01 (Ref:489190)

Senna only went over to Eddies motorhome in the first place because Berger plied him with schnapps and wound him up. Maybe Senna didn't see anything too bad in it until Berger "baited" him.

av8rirl · 29 Jan 2003, 10:11 (Ref:489209)

mr v: Senna went over straight after he got out of the car... Now, unless Berger put the schnapps in his water bottle, I think you're making it up!!!!

Mr V · 29 Jan 2003, 10:13 (Ref:489212)

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Originally posted by av8rirl
mr v: Senna went over straight after he got out of the car... Now, unless Berger put the schnapps in his water bottle, I think you're making it up!!!!

read it in "Race Without End" i believe it was, maybe the author (Maurice Hamilton) was making it up.

av8rirl · 29 Jan 2003, 10:19 (Ref:489223)

I'm sure I watched it on TV. Something similar to TGF trying to go over to DC after he nearly drove thru him in the rain..

Its a pity we don't have some characters any more. If you watch WSB, you might remember Anthony Gobert peeing into someones lid at any after race party??? Sounded like a good idea when he was p1ssed but got him into a little trouble in the end...

Mr V · 29 Jan 2003, 10:21 (Ref:489227)

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Originally posted by av8rirl
If you watch WSB, you might remember Anthony Gobert

Or Slight and Hodgeson in 1998.

As for the bit i read, i'll try and find it for you.

av8rirl · 29 Jan 2003, 10:24 (Ref:489229)

I don't doubt you. Just thought I'd seen it on TV after the race.

Senna and Berger did appear to have the good times.

Logrence · 29 Jan 2003, 14:16 (Ref:489440)

I like Senna so much less after seeing that video clip on the site - what a pompous arse.

**Adam43** · 29 Jan 2003, 14:24 (Ref:489451)

Great clip. At least it is worth watching, unlike, er, other drivers talking.

Glen · 29 Jan 2003, 15:18 (Ref:489511)

Senna was an arse to be violent and arrogant like that. He had the experience to know much better.

M Coupe · 29 Jan 2003, 20:31 (Ref:489839)

First of all it wasn't immediatly after the race finished, there was a bit of time, Senna had been to the podium etc etc.

Eddie was actually trying to fob him off, he was laughing at how wound up Ayrton was getting. (I know someone who was actually there).

Also Lee & F1manoz,
Why the remarks about Eddie. As he said he was battling with Hill, he lets Senna past, Senna messes around and doesn't pass Hill, so why should Eddie just hang back and not fight for a place, it was his 1st F1 race and he had the chance to be 1 place further up the finishing order. Why should he settle for a poorer result, he's not Ralf Schumacher you know.

J.McClane · 29 Jan 2003, 20:51 (Ref:489859)

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Originally posted by f1manoz
Sometimes some people, such as Irvine, need a good punch in the mouth.

Shame he didn't learn anythin' from it

av8rirl · 29 Jan 2003, 21:26 (Ref:489896)

I've just re-read the script. You have to laugh at Irvine picking his ar$e up of the floor shouting "thats an insurance claim, that is..."

How some things have never changed!!!! He will be missed.

Damon · 29 Jan 2003, 21:34 (Ref:489902)

Good old Ayrton! As others have said, shame Eddie didn't learn anything from it. Senna's self belief is well documented and while his comments look arrogent Eddie was in the wrong. It wasn't because he passed Senna that was the problem, it was the fact that the move was risky and could have taken all three of the drivers out.

Mr V · 29 Jan 2003, 22:00 (Ref:489917)

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Originally posted by Damon
It wasn't because he passed Senna that was the problem, it was the fact that the move was risky and could have taken all three of the drivers out.

But he didn't did he, it was a well executed move, as M Coupe said, what was he suppossed to do, just sit there and lose the chance of a possible place gain? At that time, he was faster than Senna. What would have happened (for arguements sake) had for some reason Senna had gone a lap down and he came up behind Irvine who was slower and wanted to unlap himself? would he have just sat there? I think not, but because it was a "lesser rookie" driver, it was unacceptable.

Damon · 29 Jan 2003, 22:30 (Ref:489949)

Yeah, fair enough!

RWC · 29 Jan 2003, 23:05 (Ref:489992)

Pity if the berger 'baiting' story isn't true-i could just see him doing that!!!!LOL

paulzinho · 29 Jan 2003, 23:39 (Ref:490017)

Berger and Senna used to play so many jokes on each other that it wouldn't surprise me if he had, shame the characters have nearly disappeared from F1.....

ASCII Man · 29 Jan 2003, 23:40 (Ref:490018)

Yep, we're down to just 1 now...

RWC · 30 Jan 2003, 00:15 (Ref:490041)

I s'pose you've all heard of the breifcase out the chopper window,sennas passport pictures substituted with pics of genatalia,etc

Mr V · 30 Jan 2003, 00:34 (Ref:490059)

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Originally posted by RWC
Pity if the berger 'baiting' story isn't true-i could just see him doing that!!!!LOL

from...Race without end by Maurice Hamilton

Gerhard Berger is relaxing in the Camel office, enjoying a glass of schnapps with Karl-Heinz Zimmerman, a brilliant Austrian chef with a mischevious sense of humour matched only by Berger's. In walks Senna and it does not take much to persuade him to have a glass of strong refreshment.
Being almost teetotal, and having worked hard for close to two hours, the effect of the schnapps is immediate and exaggerated beyond normal bounds.
Senna is talking about Irvine's behaviour in the race and, throughout, Berger is agreeing with him.
"you should do something about it" says Berger, as he manages to disguise his devilish intent. So, suitably fortified by Karl-Heinz's hospitality, Senna takes Berger's advice

av8rirl · 30 Jan 2003, 09:30 (Ref:490311)

What a legend and my hero. But then I do admire The Swirve too. Maybe he was only number 2 driver but he did have a personality.

Heres hoping Massa will be the next personality.

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