Scrutineers

Mark Mitchell · 28 Feb 2003, 16:32 (Ref:520573)

Does anyone know why Scrutineers ALL seem to be on the pit wall or close proximity during practice or races?
You must have heard over the radio that Car Number xx has a door that keeps coming open and control will ask a Scrutineer to have a look (If he's awake) Obviously, when the car goes past him (On the Pit wall....the Scrutineer, not the car) he says that everything looks fine! DURRRR! Of course it will...it's not going round a corner.
The same could be said for cars that have been over-fuelled.......round a corner, it comes out...on the straight.....it doesn't.
So why don't Scrutineers go to bendy parts of the track - because an Observers word on these matters is never good enough for a CofC?

brickkicker · 28 Feb 2003, 18:32 (Ref:520677)

Well we stand on the wall because that's were we have to stand. Most are awake but are not always given a radio. You point out ‘will ask a scrutineer to have a look’ that surly answers your question, we can only report what we see not what we hear (judge of fact). I agree that CofC could take your word but unfortunately they wont its not the fault of the scrutineers that they will not listen to you.

Mark Mitchell · 3 Mar 2003, 08:30 (Ref:523246)

Sorry Brickkicker my thread makes it sound like I'm having a go at Scrutineers - I'm not!
I'm sure you'd agree though that having a scrutineer on a couple of corner would make sense, as there always seems to be plenty of you guys at a meeting. If not then an Observers word (Judge Of Fact Again) should suffice and a car should be meatballed!

Bodysnatcher · 3 Mar 2003, 08:57 (Ref:523254)

em, well at Brands there's usually a scrute on Post 6 (the exit of Druids) during races. For exactly the reasons that observer suggests - it's the slowest corner on the circuit. Gives them the ability to take a line long look at the car and it's pretty close too.

Mark Mitchell · 3 Mar 2003, 09:01 (Ref:523256)

Did You say Scrute or Sc.......D'oh there I go again......KIDDING!

Dave Brand · 3 Mar 2003, 09:46 (Ref:523267)

I've been told by a reliable source

that a scrutineer is posted on the outside of Lodge at some of the bigger meetings at Oulton.

Flagman · 3 Mar 2003, 13:00 (Ref:523396)

TOCA sent scrutineers out to various points on the circuits at most of their meetings a few seasona ago - not sur if they still do.

JimW · 3 Mar 2003, 15:40 (Ref:523536)

For example at Goodwood we (almost all of the time) have a scrutineer in the vicinity of the chicane for just this reason.

Regards

Jim

275 GTB-4 · 4 Mar 2003, 10:36 (Ref:524301)

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Originally posted by observer
Does anyone know why Scrutineers ALL seem to be on the pit wall or close proximity during practice or races?
You must have heard over the radio that Car Number xx has a door that keeps coming open and control will ask a Scrutineer to have a look (If he's awake) Obviously, when the car goes past him (On the Pit wall....the Scrutineer, not the car) he says that everything looks fine! DURRRR! Of course it will...it's not going round a corner.
The same could be said for cars that have been over-fuelled.......round a corner, it comes out...on the straight.....it doesn't.
So why don't Scrutineers go to bendy parts of the track - because an Observers word on these matters is never good enough for a CofC?

Most racetracks probably have more than enough eyes, ears and noses on the job who are in some form of communication. It is usually up to Race Control to make the D on advice from their "gallery of thousands". I agree, terribly frustrating to see something truly dangerous but because the "pit lane scrutineer" can;;'t confirm it the driver wanders around obliviously. I have been screamed at for breaking radio silence in the first two laps only to be vindicated by major fuel/fire problems.

I don't know what the answer is......

avsfan733 · 5 Mar 2003, 19:45 (Ref:525967)

maybe listen to the people who are doing there jobs?

Mark Mitchell · 6 Mar 2003, 10:46 (Ref:526471)

Brickkicker - I have just worked out who you are and if I remember rightly, you don't know one end of a blummin' car from the other

LOL
Whenever I see you, you have that flamin' camera stuck round your neck!!

See you Sunday!!

brickkicker · 6 Mar 2003, 16:46 (Ref:526747)

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Brickkicker - I have just worked out who you are and if I remember rightly, you don't know one end of a blummin' car from the other LOL

I am going to have to read up for Sunday am in orange for that one (if the tickets get here). The even upgraded me to Incident (does that mean I dont have to do anything any more)

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Whenever I see you, you have that flamin' camera stuck round your neck!!

Well I found somthing I can do (sort of)

Mark Mitchell · 6 Mar 2003, 16:49 (Ref:526750)

Got my tickets last friday!!
Let me know if you don't get them - you can have my spare!

brickkicker · 6 Mar 2003, 16:51 (Ref:526751)

Only phoned about them Monday (was unsure if I could make it) so they should get here by Friday ( I hope) thanks for the offer will let you know if they dont get here in time

Mark Mitchell · 7 Mar 2003, 10:33 (Ref:527567)

Do you think they would let us have a post manned entirely by ten-tenthers?

**Woolley** · 7 Mar 2003, 18:04 (Ref:527962)

Not if they've read it they won't.