*Race Thread*.... Penultimate Round of the ALMS....Petit Le Mans Oct. 1-4, 08

[vogelmann4]

My observation was this...

First, I've been to enough races to know when brakes should or shouldn't be glowing. Like I originally said, I didn't think anything of it when I was at the braking zone of T6 taking pictures.

When I first saw them glowing, I thought they hadn't cooled off yet. My dad even suggested they might have put some friction on the brakes to keep them warm. After some more observing we determined that they would never put that much friction on a brake and the brakes would have cooled off by the time we saw them.

After this I walked to the bridge on the backstaight, which for those of you who have never been to RA is hundred yards + up from turn 7. There I saw they were still glowing. I didn't notice this during night practice or at Sebring.

[MulsanneMike]

Originally Posted by chernaudi

At Sebring, Audi had to change front rotors and the 908 slowed near the end of the race to save brakes, bue cause the drivers complained of brake fade and other issues-and those cars for sure had carbon rotors.

But does anyone know if the Pug had rear brake shrouds-I have photos from Mid Ohio where the R10s had the front shrouds, but discarded the rears in favor of larger brake ducts(which they used since Laguna '07).

No rear shrouds on 908 at Petit, just standard rear backing plate but nothing masking the outboard face of the brake disc.

[MulsanneMike]

Originally Posted by MulsanneMike

No rear shrouds on 908 at Petit, just standard rear backing plate but nothing masking the outboard face of the brake disc.

Come to think of it, Peugeot isn't running shrouds on the front. Again, as at the rear, just a backing plate on the rear with the front face (outer face) unmasked.

[Hugewally]

fyi...

Memo 08-04 & 08-05 are now posted on the IMSA racing site - http://www.imsaracing.net/imsaNS2.cf...dexnewalms.htm

[MulsanneMike]

Yup, had them up:

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newssept08.html

[Hugewally]

Dang, you're so quick... lol

[MulsanneMike]

Was updating on Thursday evening when I went to have a poke to see if 08-04 was up and saw 08-05 as well (someone had mentioned on forums but you can't comment on what you can't read and short of being at the track what is one to do?). Unfortunately there's no one around to inquire about 08-05 (why?) so that will have to wait until next week...

[AU N EGL]

Good stuff and great pics Mike

[JHamilton]

I don't understand the use of Techron... In fact I thought until now it was a bs marketing ploy by Chevron. Anyone know what sort of advatages the product gives to a race engine?

[JHamilton]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I don't understand the use of Techron... In fact I thought until now it was a bs marketing ploy by Chevron. Anyone know what sort of advatages the product gives to a race engine?

...aaaand when I scroll down the page Mike answers my question.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by porsche45

What do you consider "old?"

It would depend. EP is old, but he is still on top of his game. If you race at that level for many years, it doesn't matter how old you are. If you are in the game, you maintain yourself to stay at that level. If you are not at that level for many years, the older you get the harder it is to get into the game and stay in it. I consider 50 to be old for racing. In the case of the Intersport drivers for the #30, they haven't been at the level of the ALMS competitively for numerous years.

For example, my roomate thinks that 21 is old and 22 is really old. He also told me he plans on living to be 130. I told him good luck with that (he is a bio science PhD. student).

[Aslak Vind]

Tom Kristensen is 41, and his fitness is absolutely second to none both in the DTM and LM. So if you maintain yourself, especially in endurance you can go a long way.

However the refelxes will slow down, no matter what you do.

[TWK]

Originally Posted by JHamilton

I don't understand the use of Techron... In fact I thought until now it was a bs marketing ploy by Chevron. Anyone know what sort of advatages the product gives to a race engine?

Techron is not new. Over twenty years ago it was sold in bottled form for periodically adding to a tank of fuel. In fact both BMW and Porsche sold it in similar little black bottles with their own brand/logo in their dealer parts departments.

I used it fairly religiously in my 2002 tii, and my Porsche friends did likewise in 911's and 944/944t.

Although it may have been a Chevron additive from the start, it was sold in bottles before it ever became a label on Chevron's pumps.

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Tom Kristensen is 41, and his fitness is absolutely second to none both in the DTM and LM. So if you maintain yourself, especially in endurance you can go a long way.

However the refelxes will slow down, no matter what you do.

No kiddin !!! ..... Im a touch older than TK ..... but Im over thrice as ********ed as he is .

[Hugewally]

Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

Tom Kristensen is 41, and his fitness is absolutely second to none both in the DTM and LM. So if you maintain yourself, especially in endurance you can go a long way.

However the refelxes will slow down, no matter what you do.

Of course, hits to the head will over ride everything quicker than age will.

[Aslak Vind]

Originally Posted by Hugewally

Of course, hits to the head will over ride everything quicker than age will.

Sadly you are right... Sadly..