Bathurst 24hr Nov 19-21

Dobbo89 · 23 Jun 2004, 04:52 (Ref:1012856)

So now that the Bathurst 24hr is confirmed, which international teams do you all think are interested, I think the more the better, I would actually love to see an international team grab the honours, and then make us race harder to get them back the next year.

Patrick B · 23 Jun 2004, 05:40 (Ref:1012875)

I watched(streaming vid) of the Bathurst 24 for the last couple years and it was pretty good.

That being said i think the ACO could really help out the lesser known 24 by possibly giving out 1 spot for the winner at the LM 24...

Fab · 23 Jun 2004, 05:47 (Ref:1012876)

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Originally posted by Patrick B
That being said i think the ACO could really help out the lesser known 24 by possibly giving out 1 spot for the winner at the LM 24...

That's a good idea. The problem with ACO is the fact that they're jaleous of their own rules... what are the rules (to enter) at Bathurst ?

cybersdorf · 23 Jun 2004, 06:51 (Ref:1012901)

It doesn't quite work out because either Bathurst would have to be run to ACO regulations ("Audis on the Mountain, way cool!" - but in all seriousness, impossible); or the ACO would have to introduce an "invitation" class. (on the other hand, seeing as the whole race is an "invitational" these days it wouldn't make a difference

)

Incidentally, I don't think you have watched this race "for the last couple years" - 2003 was the first and so far only edition. You may be referring to the Bathurst 1000k for V8Supercars which is a different affair altogether.

Bathurst has regulations similar to the Nürburgring.

hotgemini · 23 Jun 2004, 07:14 (Ref:1012917)

cybersdorf: 2003 was the first and only... except for 2002... which was the first...

24Hours · 23 Jun 2004, 07:25 (Ref:1012924)

Back on the original topic. Apparently the factory bmw team that won nurburgring are keen! a number of others from that event are also interested! i reckon the morgan team will be back aswell as rollcentre mosler(s)?, BE racing from Austria were also keen on coming back, Cirtek porsches also im bettin. hopefully the Alzen boys will be back, they were awesome!!

cybersdorf · 23 Jun 2004, 07:34 (Ref:1012928)

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Originally posted by hotgemini
cybersdorf: 2003 was the first and only... except for 2002... which was the first...

I'd forgotten about that already...
oops

cybersdorf · 23 Jun 2004, 07:36 (Ref:1012931)

[QUOTE]Originally posted by 24Hours
BE racing from Austria were also keen on coming back[7quote]
BE doesn't exist anymore.

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...hopefully the Alzen boys will be back, they were awesome!!

They will be back, if everything goes as planned. BMW/Schnitzer is very keen but as always it's a money thing, and a corporate decision.

iconic · 23 Jun 2004, 08:05 (Ref:1012965)

well first the regulations have to be set. the rules need to be fair for all teams/cars. if FIA GT and FIA N-GT or equivalent ACO classes are set, it will be international. also add in an unlimited class such as in the nurburg 24hrs, then it'll be a classic

24Hours · 23 Jun 2004, 08:29 (Ref:1012988)

what happened to BE?

cybersdorf · 23 Jun 2004, 09:09 (Ref:1013025)

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Originally posted by 24Hours
what happened to BE?

I am told Klaus Engelhorn quit racing.

racer69 · 23 Jun 2004, 14:29 (Ref:1013417)

It would be good to see the Alzen brothers back this year.

Last year in the 996 GT3 Supercup Porsche, Uwe Alzen was fantastic across the top of the Mountain, particularly in the wet warm-up prior to the race.

Lets hope they can bring their Turbo GT2 (From the Nurburgring), that will really give the Monaro's a hurry up!

cybersdorf · 23 Jun 2004, 15:40 (Ref:1013497)

..for a few hours, then it'll break down, as usual!

bf1 · 23 Jun 2004, 19:35 (Ref:1013763)

Bath hurst should run to "rules" either FIA/ACO
and go from strenght to strenght

I saw a pic of the Alzens Porsche - Wow - only if it was holomagated..

P.S Nurburgring 24hr highlights will be on MotorsTV Tuesday {29/6/04} at 9pm and repeated plenty of times

cybersdorf · 23 Jun 2004, 19:53 (Ref:1013786)

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Originally posted by bf1
Bath hurst should run to "rules" either FIA/ACO
and go from strenght to strenght

...and lose all its national/local entrants... - you wouldn't be left with much...
It needs to build over time.

bf1 · 23 Jun 2004, 19:59 (Ref:1013792)

Sorry for the spelling mistake and i mean that the FIA/ACO cars should run in addition to the local entrants like Spa so there will be a big grid

bf1

SALEEN S7R · 23 Jun 2004, 23:25 (Ref:1014014)

Personally Id support the idea of having regulations for FAI GT GT/NGT cars as well as the current regulations. But then ud have a situation where the FIA GT, GT class cars would effectivly dominate. The Monaros are fast yeah, faster than NGT cars such as 360's and 911's, but quicker than 550's/575's and Lambourgini Murciealgo's? No.

Patrick B · 24 Jun 2004, 01:12 (Ref:1014068)

You sure? Being that the Monaros are based on the C5Rs i bet thier as fast as a 575... or fairly close.

JAG · 24 Jun 2004, 01:32 (Ref:1014080)

The Monaro is competing in the British GT Championship and is about 5 seconds of the pace of the best N-GT cars. It does run a less powerful engine than in Australia though.

Even so, in Nations Cup the Monaro is only as quick, even maybe a little slower, than the Strycek (sp) Diablo, which is little more than a tweaked Diablo GTR one make car.

Last years Rafanelli 550 car is in Nations Cup now and runs with a good couple of hundred Kgs of ballast, smaller restrictor, wings etc.

SALEEN S7R · 24 Jun 2004, 02:19 (Ref:1014098)

Yes Jag - and it and Alan Simossen are kicking ass lol, severely. When they show up that is.

24Hours · 24 Jun 2004, 06:10 (Ref:1014167)

The nations cup monaro's are fairly restricted aswell. unrestricted im not sure how they would fare against a gts car? but in sprint form, it should be quicker than a v8 supercar around bathurst, easy! No names are confirmed yet but i hear Maranello Motorsport(550) have got some gun drivers lined up for the 24 Hour!

cybersdorf · 24 Jun 2004, 08:24 (Ref:1014267)

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Originally posted by JAG
The Monaro is competing in the British GT Championship and is about 5 seconds of the pace of the best N-GT cars.

That's a completely different car!

24Hours · 24 Jun 2004, 09:36 (Ref:1014334)

cybersdorf, you seem to be in the know with whats going on in the sportscar world, have you heard anything on teams coming over?

cybersdorf · 24 Jun 2004, 10:31 (Ref:1014368)

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Originally posted by 24Hours
[B]cybersdorf, you seem to be in the know with whats going on in the sportscar world,]/b]

Heavens no!

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have you heard anything on teams coming over?

I have heard about certain teams' intention to go to Bathurst; they are probably the same you have heard of. Alzen with a (which?) Porsche, Duller with BMWs, Graham Nash with a Porsche, not sure if I have heard about Cirtek or not

, Morgan, maybe Schnitzer BMW.

...budget permitting.

BSchneiderFan · 24 Jun 2004, 16:14 (Ref:1014762)

I hope Schnitzer do go to Bathurst; I always liked the M3 GTR (sorry, Ayse) and the cars are now pretty much sorted for endurance racing. After the Nurburgring victory, it'd be great to see them at Mount Panorama. Be interesting to see how they go at Spa, too.

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