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Old 3 Apr 2005, 14:45 (Ref:1268755)   #51
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Jones has talent and experience? since when?
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Old 3 Apr 2005, 22:36 (Ref:1269302)   #52
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Russfeld, just because he hasn't done a lot of racing in British F3, does not mean Christian isn't talented and/or experienced. The kid can actually pedal quite well.
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Old 3 Apr 2005, 22:44 (Ref:1269306)   #53
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He hasnt done a lot of racing anywhere, or to any acclaim. Though well done for his property management skills.
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 01:05 (Ref:1269362)   #54
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So anyway, what did the car sound like??????
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 02:33 (Ref:1269382)   #55
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Plus we've seen how an established, full-time V8 driver goes in these sort of cars - Lowndes in F3000........
Speed racer, just some facts for you
Lowndes won the FF championship in 93, the silver star in ADC in 94, 95 he only raced in the 2 endurance races, 96 he raced his first full season in tourers and won everthing that was on offer then in 97 he raced F3000 alongside Montoya in the Marko outfit, at that time he was hardly what you would call an established, full-time V8 driver.

Id rather see a fresh face as I said earlier in the thread.
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 02:51 (Ref:1269393)   #56
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The series will see car and nation score points - not the driver. So its quite probable that several drivers will be used . . . and it was stated they will be paid.
 
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Old 4 Apr 2005, 16:13 (Ref:1270010)   #57
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Are there any pics of the Australian livery?
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Old 5 Apr 2005, 04:32 (Ref:1270453)   #59
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/Motorspor...489418788.html

Sheik series showdown for Australia's top drivers
By Peter McKay
April 5, 2005

Australia's driver or drivers to contest the new global A1 Grand Prix Series - the world cup of motor sport - will be named after the likely lads go head to head at a drive-off in Australia.

A handful of names are on the shortlist, and others will be added in the coming weeks. Set to do battle for the prized, paid gig are Asian F3 champ Christian Jones, Australian F3 champ Karl Reindler, Australian champ car racer Marcus Marshall, and the two Wills - Power and Davison - both of whom raced in British F3 last season.

Others who will be keen to wave their credentials in front of A1 Grand Prix Team Australia head Alan Jones are Ian Dyk, Chris Agajanian and, perhaps, the brilliant James Courtney, the former Jaguar F1 tester now racing GT cars in Japan.

Starting at Brands Hatch, England, in September and running largely during the F1 off season, the 10-round A1 series will involve 25 national teams including India, Britain, Mexico, Brazil, South Africa, Lebanon, Pakistan, China, New Zealand and United Arab Emirates. Each team has two cars and two engines and may use more than one driver.

The three-day race weekend will consist of practice and qualifying, followed on Sunday by a 15- to 20-minute sprint race that will set grid positions for the 40- to 60-minute main event.

Only national sponsors can be displayed on the national car.

The mood was upbeat when Australia's A1 GP team and car were unveiled at a Sydney function a few days ago attended by a wealthy contingent who were entertained by musicians and given the hard sell from former world champ Jones and the A1 GP's founder, Sheik Maktoum Hasher of the ruling family of Dubai.

Sheik Maktoum, who arrived with bodyguards and a flotilla of black BMWs, revealed a fine line in self deprecation when he suggested the rest of the motor sporting world was sceptical when it saw a guy come out on a camel with two oil barrels on his back to sell the A1 GP idea.

The youthful sheik, who has a background in finance, isn't doing the A1 series just for fun. He intends to make money.

NSW tourism minister Sandra Nori lent her support to the project and came out unequivocally in favour of the Australian round being held at Sydney's Eastern Creek Raceway.

Nori, who is also the Minister for Women, then threw down the challenge to Jones to deliver a female racing champion.

Watching proceedings, too, was Neville Crichton, the governing-director of motor vehicle importer Ateco Automotive. A Kiwi, he is supporting the Australian team. "It's terrific value," Crichton said. "The same money as a V8 supercar team."

A1 GP organisers are promising exposure to 80 per cent of the world's population.

The Australian round, though not yet confirmed, will be held at Eastern Creek, and securing the A1 GP marks a rare victory over motor race hungry Victoria.

One vital piece missing from the jigsaw, however, is a host telecaster, although Seven's Saul Shtein was at the unveiling.
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Speed racer, just some facts for you
Lowndes won the FF championship in 93, the silver star in ADC in 94, 95 he only raced in the 2 endurance races, 96 he raced his first full season in tourers and won everthing that was on offer then in 97 he raced F3000 alongside Montoya in the Marko outfit, at that time he was hardly what you would call an established, full-time V8 driver.
I know he won FF championship, and went very well in Formula Holden in 94 in a much older car compared to his competitors.

He is a great driver - no doubt.

But in my opinion, because he spent so much time in V8's (from 94 to the end of 96) he had changed his driving style.

And ofcourse he was an established V8 driver - he won the championship didn't he?? and bathurst?? and sandown??

And ofcourse he was a full-time V8 driver - he was full-time at HRT.....
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Old 5 Apr 2005, 19:26 (Ref:1271166)   #61
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But in my opinion, because he spent so much time in V8's (from 94 to the end of 96) he had changed his driving style.
And ofcourse he was an established V8 driver - he won the championship didn't he?? and bathurst?? and sandown??
And ofcourse he was a full-time V8 driver - he was full-time at HRT.......
during the 96 season only.

Just once more for clarity and to correct some mistakes

In 94 he was driving in the ADC full time .

He was then drafted by HRT for the 2 endurance races in 94 with Brad Jones in the teams second car, Bathurst 5th and Sandown 2nd.

Then in 95 he competed only in 2 endurance races with Greg Murphy, failed to finish at both Sandown and Bathurst.

He had his first full season in tourers in 96 when he won the championship, He did win Bathust and Sandown with Greg Murphy in 96, which is his only Bathurst victory while Murphy has now won Bathurst 4 times.

IMO that doesnt mean he was an established V8 racer just a damm good steerer, its irrelevant anyway but I thought Id set you straight.
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Old 6 Apr 2005, 11:07 (Ref:1271604)   #62
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Just think. Had this come up 20 years ago your prime candidates would have been John Bowe and Alfredo Costanzo. Now that would have been good...
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Old 6 Apr 2005, 11:45 (Ref:1271619)   #63
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during the 96 season only.

Just once more for clarity and to correct some mistakes

In 94 he was driving in the ADC full time .

He was then drafted by HRT for the 2 endurance races in 94 with Brad Jones in the teams second car, Bathurst 5th and Sandown 2nd.

Then in 95 he competed only in 2 endurance races with Greg Murphy, failed to finish at both Sandown and Bathurst.

He had his first full season in tourers in 96 when he won the championship, He did win Bathust and Sandown with Greg Murphy in 96, which is his only Bathurst victory while Murphy has now won Bathurst 4 times.

IMO that doesnt mean he was an established V8 racer just a damm good steerer, its irrelevant anyway but I thought Id set you straight.
I don't see what mistakes you wish to clarify. I don't dissagree with any of those facts.

I know what Craig has done in the past, I don't need reminding. Winning any race in V8 Supercars automatically classifys you as an 'Established' driver. Winnng a race establishes you. Let alone winning the big 3! And as you said he was full-time at HRT in 96.

In my eyes that would classify him as Established and Full-time. Guess we'll just have to agree to dissagree.

I just hope like hell that one of those Taxi drivers doesn't get a seat over one of the guys that has put his balls on the line on trying to get a ride OS.
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Old 6 Apr 2005, 12:02 (Ref:1271628)   #64
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mixxer quote "Just once more for clarity and to correct some mistakes"

"He was then drafted by HRT for the 2 endurance races in 94 with Brad Jones in the teams second car, Bathurst 5th and Sandown 2nd."

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Just had to add, CL and BJ ACTUALLY finished 2nd at Bathurst in 1994. He was leading for two laps then Bowe passed him on lap 149 and went on to win.


As you would put it ''I thought Id set you straight''

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Old 6 Apr 2005, 12:16 (Ref:1271644)   #65
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Great to see Australian Formula Three aligning itelf with A1GP. Hopefully it'll give young Aussies a clearer path for them to go and get overseas.

It's something that has been really lacking in Australian motorsport for a long, long time.

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Old 6 Apr 2005, 12:41 (Ref:1271680)   #66
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Nothing more than a typo obviously I got the results mixed up, for that I'm sorry but as for your remark I'll let the mods handle that one

PS your mistake is that he only raced 4 times in the 2 years 94 - 95.

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Gents, please try to calm down and not get into a slanging match. It seems to me that you both have the same answers to the questions, but one had a slight typo.

Come on now, shake hands and walk away as friends.

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