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Old 7 Jan 2010, 13:31 (Ref:2609456)   #1
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24h Nürburgring/VLN

Hi

I'm new to this forum, and wonders if there are some VLN/24h Nürburgring forum or news-sites in English.

All I can find is in German, but maybe this can be a place to post news/rumours in English?

I'm going to drive my sixth (partial) season in the VLN and the 24 hour race this season. I drive an Audi TT 2,0 TFSI in the SP3T-class for the Norwegian Audi Dealer Team "Møller Bil Motorsport". Check out www.mollerbil-motorsport.no



There are a lot of interesting news before this season as:
-Factory BMW M3
-New GT3 BMW Z4
-Alpina GT3 (so three different BMWs will fight for victory?)
-The Audi R8's are going for victory
-Porsche will be strong as always
-Vipers, Corvettes and Ford GT will be there I guess
-The Lexus LFA from Japan, maybe?
-Falken Nissan
-Some old DTM-cars?
-What about other GT3 cars as Ferrari, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Jaguar etc.?
-Mercedes?
-Will the Sciroccos return in SP3T (our class)?

Are there some other news before this season?

For me the VLN and the 24 hour race at the Nürburgring is one of the most interesting championships in the world. The circuit is the greatest in the world, there are almost as many spectators as Le Mans, the mix of cars is unique and the race is BIG in Germany.

But it's unfortunately not so big outside Germany, but it's getting bigger. I hope the race will become more international in the future, and I think the focus on the GT3-cars is the right way to go.

Let's post some VLN-news here!

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Old 7 Jan 2010, 14:21 (Ref:2609503)   #2
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Beautiful car you drive there. I could take a look at in detail at the last VLN round when it was parked at Hohe Acht

Don't get your hopes up for the Ford GT or the Zak Viper, the former is for sale and Zakspeed is suppossedly bankrupt.

There is however a rumor about Farnbacher having plans to run two GT3-spec Ferraris in the 24 and some VLN races.

From the Porsche-camp: new 997 GT3 Rs for Manthey (two), Frikadelli and Mamerow, IIRC.

BlackFalcon will have a pair of Audi R8s. Last fall they said that buying these cars would only make sense if they didn't have to run against the factory R8s all the time, so that might mean reduced programms for Abt and Phoenix, probably with the exception of the 24hours and the odd preparation races before.
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Old 7 Jan 2010, 16:03 (Ref:2609545)   #3
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Wait a week (Hmm whats over at the NEC next week?!?!)) and there will be some very interesting info regarding a major manufacturer also running a semi works car!

Unrelated, i see you mentioned the Falken Nissan, anyone got any news on that? is it going to be the New r35? It would be great to see that car in action
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Old 7 Jan 2010, 17:37 (Ref:2609586)   #4
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DTM cars (silhouettes) are not allowed in the 24h race.
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Old 7 Jan 2010, 19:34 (Ref:2609663)   #5
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DTM cars (silhouettes) are not allowed in the 24h race.
The Astra is. SRO aren't the only ones who know how to grandfather cars in .

Regarding Falken: Their website doesn't say anything about 2010, but since they are a sponsor I'd expect them to be back with something.

Also we'll see a pair of GT4 Ginettas this year.
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 03:36 (Ref:2609847)   #6
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So why would the Astra be allowed and not the Mercedes or the Audi? Seeing as they are all silhouettes..

I'm surprised there hasnt been no Falken R35 GT-R as yet, maybe this year?

I hope the Farnbacher Ferraris come to fruition, it would be interesting to see how they fare.

Should be a good year for the VLN and the 24hr race with BMW joining in at the front.

Nice Audi TT you are racing there Atle Gulbrandsen, good luck this year!
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 09:26 (Ref:2609917)   #7
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So why would the Astra be allowed and not the Mercedes or the Audi? Seeing as they are all silhouettes..
It's a leftover from the time when silhouettes were allowed. And seeing that the car rarely is a threat for the overall win and the competitors rarely complain too much about it, VLN has no real reason to throw it out. Being a fan favourite might also help...
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 09:40 (Ref:2609920)   #8
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It's a leftover from the time when silhouettes were allowed. And seeing that the car rarely is a threat for the overall win and the competitors rarely complain too much about it, VLN has no real reason to throw it out. Being a fan favourite might also help...
Yep

If I remember correct the Schall Opel Astra is allowed in VLN but not in the 24h race. Or is Schall not entering 24h race because it would not survive the race?
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 09:51 (Ref:2609922)   #9
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If I remember correct the Schall Opel Astra is allowed in VLN but not in the 24h race. Or is Schall not entering 24h race because it would not survive the race?
Schall is not entering the 24h race because it is just to expensive with the DTM car. I am sure it would hold up as this car did the 24 hours in 04.
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 13:55 (Ref:2610011)   #10
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Some news in German:
Alzen: http://www.vln.de/newsausgabe.de.php?id=2028
Manthey: http://www.gt-eins.at/cms/index.php?...=4694&Itemid=1

Try http://translate.google.com
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 16:56 (Ref:2610076)   #11
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If I remember correct the Schall Opel Astra is allowed in VLN but not in the 24h race.
I recalled something similar, but I looked up the regulations for the 24h before I posted and it's in there.
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 17:37 (Ref:2610097)   #12
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DTM cars (silhouettes) are not allowed in the 24h race.
Is this a new rulling? In previous years we've had the Audi tt-r as well?!!?!?

I alway got the impression the N24 pretty much had a class for whatever you were running. Even if they banned your car you could still race it ( like the V8 Zakspeed Viper
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Old 8 Jan 2010, 18:04 (Ref:2610107)   #13
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In the E1XP-class you are always at the complete mercy of the organizers
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I alway got the impression the N24 pretty much had a class for whatever you were running. Even if they banned your car you could still race it ( like the V8 Zakspeed Viper
Actually, they pretty much changed the rules to make it illegal. It could only get back in by running a smaller engine.
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Old 10 Jan 2010, 11:22 (Ref:2610930)   #15
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Whenever a take peek at the Results of the past 3 or so 24 Hour Races at the Nurburgring, this question always pops up in me head, which is the Leading Class in the event??? Honestly, its a bit of throw-up between SP7 and SP9...
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Whenever a take peek at the Results of the past 3 or so 24 Hour Races at the Nurburgring, this question always pops up in me head, which is the Leading Class in the event??? Honestly, its a bit of throw-up between SP7 and SP9...
SP9 was introduced only last year for GT3 cars. SP7 and SP8 were slowed down to be on a similar level to SP9.
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SP9 was introduced only last year for GT3 cars. SP7 and SP8 were slowed down to be on a similar level to SP9.
Thanks Dead-Eye. I'm really looking forward to see VW Scirocco on the Ring for the 2010 version of the 24 Hour Race. For a hatchback, it packs a vehement punch. I think VW will send a 3-team strong pack of Sciroccos for the 2010 24 Hour of Nurburgring and they will run in the AT Class as they did in 2009.
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What's the AT-class?

I raced against the Sciroccos in SP3T last year, and wonders if they will be back in that class.

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I think Paramattza Power is refering to the natural gas driven Sciroccos in the AT class for Turbocharged cars running on Alternative fuels.
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Some VLN-teams will race the 24h i Dubai this weekend.
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Jürgen Alzen Motorsport is going to sit out the 2010 VLN-season. Hankook sponsorship contract ran out and he's not happy with the SP7/8 vs GT3 situation.
They might still run in the 24.
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What else will he do? Porsche Supercup and German Carrera Cup?
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RCN (= VLN's little brother) and the Spezial Tourenwagen Trophy are being mentioned. But that's all like bringing a gun to a knife fight...
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Thanks Dead-Eye. I'm really looking forward to see VW Scirocco on the Ring for the 2010 version of the 24 Hour Race. For a hatchback, it packs a vehement punch. I think VW will send a 3-team strong pack of Sciroccos for the 2010 24 Hour of Nurburgring and they will run in the AT Class as they did in 2009.
Yup, Scirocco GT24 is pretty good. But full factory support, factory drivers that also adds a great deal of performance. OPC supported two Phoenix Astras in 2008, and they did pretty well, also. For a 3T class, anyways.

They should let loose GT2 class or exclude it completely. Choking GT2's to enable GT3 class fighting chance for overall is pointless - IMHO.
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