Buying an Engine

The STIG · 4 Oct 2007, 20:51 (Ref:2031308)

Here's a question for you guys... lets see if someone knows the answer.

Can you go to a Jaguar/Peugeot/LandRover Dealer, go to the parts desk and ask them for a new engine, if you don't already have one to exchange.

Supposing I was after say, a 2.7 V6 Diesel engine for a project. Would I be able to buy one metaphorically over the counter, or is it a case of find one from somewhere else?

I don't particularly want to get an engine out of a write off, neither do I want one which has been sitting around in a scrapyard for ages.

Thanks in advance.

blackx · 4 Oct 2007, 23:39 (Ref:2031452)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The STIG

Here's a question for you guys... lets see if someone knows the answer.

Can you go to a Jaguar/Peugeot/LandRover Dealer, go to the parts desk and ask them for a new engine, if you don't already have one to exchange.

Supposing I was after say, a 2.7 V6 Diesel engine for a project. Would I be able to buy one metaphorically over the counter, or is it a case of find one from somewhere else?

I don't particularly want to get an engine out of a write off, neither do I want one which has been sitting around in a scrapyard for ages.

Thanks in advance.

You can but I think there is a surcharge if you dont have an old unit to supply in exchange or if the old unit has a holed block for example.

quick_dry · 5 Oct 2007, 04:58 (Ref:2031563)

I don't know about those brands specifically, but know you can with other makes (and that when buying stock parts it can pay off to do a wide ranging price check, sometimes it still works out cheaper when shipped). Though I don't know if they usually come complete or you buy shortblock, buy the head, put it together yourself.

blackx · 5 Oct 2007, 08:46 (Ref:2031712)

I work for an Iveco dealer and when we supply a new engine it comes without ancillieries such as alternator,turbo etc but otherwise is complete.

If no exchange unit is offered then a surcharge is applied.

**BertMk2** · 5 Oct 2007, 09:27 (Ref:2031745)

Nothing wrong with scrapyard engines

Our rally car was scrap yard powered (£125 2-litre Zetec out of a Mondeo) and we never had any problems.

If you're looking for a lump to drop straight in then new may be the way to go (but as mentioned you'll still need to get all the ancillaries and attach them yourself). If you're prepared to strip the engine down and rebuild it then a scrapper isn't really a risk - just make sure it can be turned before you pick it up (no point in taking home something that's seized solid). Getting a scrapper could save you a lot of money. Also if you're after a Land Rover engine then there are plenty of specialist dealers/restorers that you could go to for a 2nd hand engine if you don't fancy one out of a scrapyard.

Dave Brand · 5 Oct 2007, 09:30 (Ref:2031749)

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Originally Posted by The STIG

Can you go to a Jaguar/Peugeot/LandRover Dealer, go to the parts desk and ask them for a new engine, if you don't already have one to exchange.

It ain't gonna be cheap! Then you've got to add in the cost of all the ancillaries; buy a modern engine & you'll also need an engine management system.......how many thousands do you want to spend?

Your best option, I think, would be a low-mileage unit from a scrapyard.

Mike_Wooshy · 5 Oct 2007, 09:34 (Ref:2031754)

IIRC there is a company that sells crate engines, if its a project maybe it might be worth a look here, fail that im sure there is some smashed citroen C6 with the same engine in a breakers yard why not try here ?

The STIG · 5 Oct 2007, 10:57 (Ref:2031843)

Thanks for the answers guys!

I don't have the skills to re-build an engine myself. How much do you guys think it would cost to have it done professionally?

redshoes · 5 Oct 2007, 11:36 (Ref:2031886)

Have to agree with Dave, a low mileage engine from a scrapyard/breaker would be the best option.

A professional rebuild or recon unit would be cheaper than a brand new engine from a dealer.

I can understand not wanting a rusted lump that's been sitting in a yard for months, but there's lots of breakers who strip write-offs and accident damaged cars who could help. Some will even give you a guarantee with it, admittedly a very short one.

Have a look through Exchange and Mart or your local Auto Trader. Chances are there will be pages of breakers and secondhand/recon engine suppliers. At least it will give you some idea of prices.

The STIG · 5 Oct 2007, 12:31 (Ref:2031938)

Ahha - Jackpot!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Jaguar-S-Type-...QQcmdZViewItem

Now - I wonder if that comes with everything with it - time to send an e-mail me thinkies.

For something which has only 60,000 miles on it, is it worth getting it re-conditioned?

Dave Brand · 5 Oct 2007, 13:19 (Ref:2032012)

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Originally Posted by The STIG

For something which has only 60,000 miles on it, is it worth getting it re-conditioned?

A total waste of money! You'd be looking a four-figure sum to end up, in real terms, no better off. Any modern engine is good for 100,000 miles or more given normal routine maintenance.

blackx · 5 Oct 2007, 13:46 (Ref:2032023)

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Originally Posted by Dave Brand

A total waste of money! You'd be looking a four-figure sum to end up, in real terms, no better off. Any modern engine is good for 100,000 miles or more given normal routine maintenance.

Agreed.....

Its only just run in at 60k...

zac510 · 5 Oct 2007, 13:59 (Ref:2032036)

Being a diesel I suppose you're not going to be putting racing miles on it? In which case I'd just run it as is

The STIG · 5 Oct 2007, 15:52 (Ref:2032132)

I won't be racing it, but neither will I be being exactly gentle with it! I want to fit it into a tracking vehicle. Such a machine has to be fairly powerfull to move the weight of all the camera kit on board - and still tow something (usually another car on a trailer or a A-Frame). It also could do with being relatively quick to keep up with the thing I want to track if the target is running free (unless it's mark blundell on a skateboard). So I figured screwing this engine into a pick up with the nessasary mods done to it should give it more than enough power... Although I may have to strenghthen the chassis a bit as well.

And if not, It'll make one hell of a sleeper!

**BertMk2** · 5 Oct 2007, 18:27 (Ref:2032260)

Sounds like a scrapper is fine then - get one from a specialist if you can (as mentioned they may give you a limited warranty on it). A quick service, new cambelt and off you go!

The STIG · 5 Oct 2007, 20:49 (Ref:2032369)

Well there's the answer then. Thanks guys.

GORDON STREETER · 15 Oct 2007, 20:08 (Ref:2041061)

Only just seen this thread but here's my two pence worth. If possible get an engine from a late crashed vehicle (as it was probably running when crashed ) Also ask to hear it running if its possible. I personally would buy the complete vehicle then you have all those little odds n sods that you will need that collectively cost a fortune.

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