v8supercars heritage race weekend concept??

[shorty226]

just a thought people. What if the v8's had a heritage livery round were the teams use classic livery's from the past just with there new sponsor's on them for example HRT run a 1997 livery and Tasman run the old LANSVALE livery.

[aussieracer]

im not sure how that would work. what would 888 ect run? with the cost of respraying a car im not sure all teams would be happy with that.

[Uncle Cranker]

Originally Posted by shorty226

just a thought people. What if the v8's had a heritage livery round were the teams use classic livery's from the past just with there new sponsor's on them for example HRT run a 1997 livery and Tasman run the old LANSVALE livery.

Clearly a history of a short 11 years, is more than 1/2 a lifetime.


To a 16 year old........



The AFL Heritage Round shows off a history of more than 50 years, I can guarantee the V8 SC won't be around in 38 years time !

[Reload]

Shorty, its become obvious that you like seeing your name on here, but you are really trying too hard.

[Wood-duck]

c'mon fellas go easy on the young bloke..

Thinking outside the square.. I reckon the idea rocks !

But.......... as aussieracer says logistically paint-wise it could be a problem. Teams have done one-off liveries before without an issue, such as T8 in darwin and Tasman for nearly every round they run prior to sprint gas coming on board.

Imagine the merchandise sales of one-off heritage round apparel...

What if we put some of the Group C/A cars on the support act instead of the Mini's, and rolled out a few of the originally livered EF/L's and VR/VS's.. and got some of the current stars to run some demo laps in them ?

[Reload]

Originally Posted by Wood-duck

c'mon fellas go easy on the young bloke..

Thinking outside the square.. I reckon the idea rocks !

But.......... as aussieracer says logistically paint-wise it could be a problem. Teams have done one-off liveries before without an issue, such as T8 in darwin and Tasman for nearly every round they run prior to sprint gas coming on board.

Imagine the merchandise sales of one-off heritage round apparel...

What if we put some of the Group C/A cars on the support act instead of the Mini's, and rolled out a few of the originally livered EF/L's and VR/VS's.. and got some of the current stars to run some demo laps in them ?

Or attend the Muscle car masters.

[racer69]

For a heritage round i would support a street race in NSW, at Gnoo Blas in Orange

[Pro Racer]

i think it would be a good concept for the factory teams to adopt at Bathurst if you went any further down pitlane it would be too hard.

[Uncle Cranker]

Originally Posted by racer69

For a heritage round i would support a street race in NSW, at Gnoo Blas in Orange

I like your thinking there Racer.

I'll see your Gnoo Blas & raise you a Longford !

[STEALTHY]

I was sure i read in a mag somewhere that the old V8 supercars are having a heritage race. Not sure how old it is, but it has the 9 Camaro on the cover, with a full feature on it.

[MPA]

Originally Posted by Pro Racer

i think it would be a good concept for the factory teams to adopt at Bathurst if you went any further down pitlane it would be too hard.

Too hard? Pro, Jason Bright rebuilds his cars after every round and spends about 70K on stickers each year. My boys would love to have that much to spend on stickers each year. But Their pocket money only goes so far....

And that's at the far end of pit lane. Walk down pit lane on any Sunday night and its hard to find a straight panel. Spoiler, front and rear, mashed. Doors dented. Bonnet and boot punished. Kevlar front guards looking second hand. The only panel that survives is the roof turret.

And Brad Jones can smash that too.


No Pro, cost is not a problem with this concept.

It's the concept itself.

Wanna see an old touring car? plenty of them running in historic racing.



Hi Dave! See you at Sandown this year.....

[PVDA]

The other problem is the changes in sponsors over the years as well as restrictions (no Marlboro adverts anymore).

I can just see the current HRT sponsors loving seeing Telecom Mobilenet plastered all over the HRT cars............

[Pro Racer]

go Mr Towe love the Bimmer. yeah i know i try to make it to the Historic rounds if i can but will definatly be at MCM.

[blaarg]

It's a brilliant idea, and instead of suggesting ways of how it doesn't work, why not come up with ideas on how it 'can' work?

But I guess that would be too great a challenge?

[blaarg]

Here's a suggestion.

Why not get 30 of the 'best' historic liveries and put them in a hat.

Each team draws a livery from the hat, and they have to paint their cars in the said colours.

To keep todays sponsors happy, work their business names into the historic livery.

[MPA]

Blaarg, Shorty did not ask anyone how we could make his "Thought" work.

In fact, he never asked a question....Please note the lack of question marks in the opening post.

I guess he was just asking for comments, and he'll have to take them as they come. Most have decided its not a workable idea.

But until the thread drops down the page into obscurity, everyone welcome to join in.

I like your idea of the best 30.....

The Marlboro dayglo HDT 84 paint job was great.

[blaarg]

Thanks MPA, I'll take that as a compliment! (... I think)

I've always had something for the Peter Jackson livery, on the Fords in the early 90's... basic livery but such contrasting colour.

That's one I'd be voting for.

[Uncle Cranker]

Originally Posted by blaarg

Here's a suggestion.

Why not get 30 of the 'best' historic liveries and put them in a hat.

Each team draws a livery from the hat, and they have to paint their cars in the said colours.

To keep todays sponsors happy, work their business names into the historic livery.

Seriously, are you people all on drugs ?

Imagine being the commercial manager of 888 trying to explain to Vodafone why you have had to replace their name with "Telstra Mobilenet" just because of a crazy whim, and harking back to a very shallow past that the Black Wiggle thinks is his own.

If, just if, it were ever to happen, don't go all misty eyed, hoping to see day-glo orange; I can't be VE$A allowing any liveries from before 1996. (when SEL 'V8 entertainment' began)

Wake up and smell the financial reality,

[blaarg]

I think you've missed the point of my post, which is OK with me.

I was merely offering a constructive alternative to the 'thought' the thread starter began with.

PS. In the kindest possible way, you might also want to read my post again. You'll notice nothing was mentioned regarding the replacement of current sponsor names, but instead 'To keep todays sponsors happy, work their business names into the historic livery' (i.e. get rid of the old sponsors)

PPS. Before you can wake up and smell the financial reality, you need to ask the customer what they want, or at-least identify who the customer is.

[Uncle Cranker]

Originally Posted by blaarg

I think you've missed the point of my post, which is OK with me.

I was merely offering a constructive alternative to the 'thought' the thread starter began with.

PS. In the kindest possible way, you might also want to read my post again. You'll notice nothing was mentioned regarding the replacement of current sponsor names, but instead 'To keep todays sponsors happy, work their business names into the historic livery' (i.e. get rid of the old sponsors)

PPS. Before you can wake up and smell the financial reality, you need to ask the customer what they want, or at-least identify who the customer is.

I take all of this post with its intent, but I will ask you this, who do YOU perceive the customer to be ?

In the commercial world of V8 S/C, the sponsors don't really care about the fans at the track, TV is where the funds are derived from.

Regardless of the livery, or 'heritage' concept, the ratings will still reign supreme.

I personally don't believe a heritage event would draw more ratings points.

As an aside, here are 14 liveries to choose from from 1997.

FORD CREDIT RACING Glenn Seton
HOLDEN RACING TEAM Greg Murphy
HOLDEN RACING TEAM Peter Brock
SHELL HELIX RACING John Bowe
ALAN JONES RACING Alan Jones
SHELL HELIX RACING Dick Johnson
COCA-COLA RACING Wayne Gardner
CASTROL PERKINS RACING Larry Perkins
CASTROL PERKINS RACING Russell Ingall
GIBSON TEAM SEGA Mark Skaife
CASTROL LONGHURST FORD Tony Longhurst
MITRE 10 RACING Mark Larkham
BETTA ELECTRICAL/FISHER&PAYKEL John Faulkner
SONY AUTOSOUND Terry Finnigan
PRO-DUCT MOTORSPORT P/L Bob Pearson
LANSVALE SMASH REPAIRS Trevor Ashby
GARRY ROGERS VALVOLINE\CUMMINS Steven Richards
PRICE ATTACK RACING P/L Kevin Heffernan
WYNNS AUSTRALIA Darren Hossack

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[Denosaur]

If the question at the start of the thread is trying to see if the what some NASCAR teams have done recently with retro paint scheme's would work on Supertaxi's, i think not.

How many sponsors, only main title or naming rights sponsors are there around in VESA these days that where around back then?? Thinks like this can work in NASCAR as they've been around for 50 years or so.

So unless some of these previous sponsors make a come back, then I very much doubt that some like HRT (Team Red) would switch back to the dark blue colour of the MobileNet/Mobil 1 cars of the early 90's.

Plus, you need history before you can have any heritage!!!

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Uncle Cranker

As an aside, here are 14 liveries to choose from from 1997.

FORD CREDIT RACING Glenn Seton
HOLDEN RACING TEAM Greg Murphy
HOLDEN RACING TEAM Peter Brock
SHELL HELIX RACING John Bowe
ALAN JONES RACING Alan Jones
SHELL HELIX RACING Dick Johnson
COCA-COLA RACING Wayne Gardner
CASTROL PERKINS RACING Larry Perkins
CASTROL PERKINS RACING Russell Ingall
GIBSON TEAM SEGA Mark Skaife
CASTROL LONGHURST FORD Tony Longhurst
MITRE 10 RACING Mark Larkham
BETTA ELECTRICAL/FISHER&PAYKEL John Faulkner
SONY AUTOSOUND Terry Finnigan
PRO-DUCT MOTORSPORT P/L Bob Pearson
LANSVALE SMASH REPAIRS Trevor Ashby
GARRY ROGERS VALVOLINE\CUMMINS Steven Richards
PRICE ATTACK RACING P/L Kevin Heffernan
WYNNS AUSTRALIA Darren Hossack

And of all of those, only GRM retains major sponsorship from the branding of that era....

[Peter Nightingale]

Heritage What,,?????????????????????????????????????

[MPA]

Point taken Peter.

Sometimes saying less is saying more.

Though some might say one V8SC year is similar to a dog's year.

So we could be talking about 70 year old touring cars here.