Janspeed Lexus confirmed for ETCC

SFonseca · 21 Oct 2002, 07:04 (Ref:409041)

Yesterday, Janspeed Lexus boys were at Estoril Padock. They will enter two Lexus IS200 next season to attack 2004 season with more cars.

Alfa Fan · 21 Oct 2002, 10:27 (Ref:409106)

If its got anything to do with TMSR it wouldn't happen.

BootsOntheSide · 21 Oct 2002, 11:20 (Ref:409150)

I don't think it does, they may be the former TMSR cars but that's the only connection. Janspeed are a more seriously funded outfit, and ETCC is cheaper and much more feasible for this type fo outfit.

**touringlegend** · 21 Oct 2002, 13:11 (Ref:409245)

So is it a factory backed campaign? It'll only happen that way!

kmchow · 21 Oct 2002, 16:51 (Ref:409405)

Quote:

Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
ETCC is cheaper and much more feasible for this type fo outfit.

What did you mean? As opposed to the the BTCC? Compared with other touring car series? F3000?

Quote:

Originally posted by touringlegend
So is it a factory backed campaign? It'll only happen that way!

Why? Does the ETCC also require factory blessing like in the case of the DTM?

SFonseca · 22 Oct 2002, 07:59 (Ref:409974)

Yes, it's a factory backed campaign.

BootsOntheSide · 22 Oct 2002, 08:49 (Ref:410010)

I meant that the ETCC is cheaper than BTC-T, but if its a factory campaign I suppose that's not the isse, but its a shame Lexus didn't step in to help TMSR (maybe they just know a loser outfit when they see one!)

kmchow · 22 Oct 2002, 19:29 (Ref:410459)

The ETCC is cheaper thant he BTC-T?? Really? I thought it was the other way around? Doesn't the BTCC have more control/shared parts than the ETCC cars? I was thinking since the ETCC rules are more freer, the costs would be higher.

JMeissner · 22 Oct 2002, 20:07 (Ref:410516)

I thought so too, that the BTCC is cheaper

Jimeth · 22 Oct 2002, 20:59 (Ref:410620)

i'm pretty sure the BTCC is cheaper

Sim_Da_BTCC_Man · 22 Oct 2002, 21:04 (Ref:410631)

Same here. I'm pretty sure its a fair bit cheaper.

TheLeader · 23 Oct 2002, 07:24 (Ref:410960)

Costs to build and run the cars are the same. Manufacturers can spread the cost over the 10 countries unlike Britain. If you could do the same wouldnt that make financial sense?

SFonseca · 23 Oct 2002, 13:44 (Ref:411271)

ETCC is an international championship and BTCC is a national championship so It's easy to understand Why BTCC is a fair bit cheaper....

kmchow · 23 Oct 2002, 19:32 (Ref:411548)

I recall offending some people a while back by suggesting that someone (BTCC??) should just do the gentlemanly thing and just use the other's (ETCC) rules? Though of course, nothing stops the ETCC from using the BTCC rules. This way, perhaps we can pave the way again to create an international set of rules like ST was!

pink69 · 23 Oct 2002, 20:05 (Ref:411576)

The BTCC production class effectivly is the ETCC.

redshoes · 23 Oct 2002, 20:11 (Ref:411589)

What ???? True the ETCC's Super 2000 rules used SuperProduction as a starting point but to say they are effectively the same thing is crazy.

Sodemo · 23 Oct 2002, 22:31 (Ref:411721)

Give the cars more BHP (just increase the engine cc) and i'm sure the ETCC would be miles better than the BTCC, just my opinion.

Super Tourer · 24 Oct 2002, 10:45 (Ref:411997)

According to Autosport mag TMSR are '90% certain' to be in the ETCC next year.

Tim Blake is reported to have lined up ex Minardi F1 designer George Ryton to design the cars the Lexus IS200's

Is this the same as the Janspeed entry?

**touringlegend** · 24 Oct 2002, 21:49 (Ref:412659)

Will the IS200's be raced under the Lexus or Toyota brand in the ETCC? I don't think they sell Lexus' in the Europe mainland?

Turkington Fan · 24 Oct 2002, 21:56 (Ref:412669)

They do sell Lexi in the Europe mainland.

**touringlegend** · 24 Oct 2002, 22:36 (Ref:412719)

Ah, is it only Japan where they're all Toyota's?

Turkington Fan · 24 Oct 2002, 22:41 (Ref:412726)

Japan and parts of Asia I think. They call them Toyotas at Macau anyway.

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