Team US F1 - Page 44

**skycafe** · 21 Mar 2010, 22:58 (Ref:2657510)

Seems like if that is really what happened, and certainly the project looks mis-managed, when you get high up and garner world wide publicity and scrutiny, you pretty much have soiled your nest.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 21 Mar 2010, 23:21 (Ref:2657517)

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Originally Posted by skycafe

Seems like if that is really what happened, and certainly the project looks mis-managed, when you get high up and garner world wide publicity and scrutiny, you pretty much have soiled your nest.

There is so much obscurity and so many unanswered questions about USF1's failure, that Ken Anderson can always spin it. Wait for the dust to settle, give it a couple of years and he could be offering his services to some fledgling outfit from the middle east, with no racing experience.

JeremySmith · 21 Mar 2010, 23:39 (Ref:2657530)

So Ken Anderson is a boffin not a con man is he. Someone please answer the question who knows the answer, otherwise we can play at this until the cows come home..

Same for Peter Windsor.. We just do not know what happened do we, apart from it did not happen and they are not here or there? were are they? I do not know...Do you!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 22 Mar 2010, 00:02 (Ref:2657539)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

So Ken Anderson is a boffin not a con man is he. Someone please answer the question who knows the answer, otherwise we can play at this until the cows come home..

Same for Peter Windsor.. We just do not know what happened do we, apart from it did not happen and they are not here or there? were are they? I do not know...Do you!

Those are good questions and are questions that should be answered by the FIA; they were quick enough to deal with Flavio.

**skycafe** · 22 Mar 2010, 01:01 (Ref:2657555)

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Originally Posted by JeremySmith

So Ken Anderson is a boffin not a con man is he.

I am not sure he really is a 'boffin,' I think the con man side managed to convince some people he was.

He certainly should have known their position when he was luring Lopez, or more truthfully Lopez' money.

The whole thing saddens me because I had hopes for the team long ago, and I loved the idea of seeing the inner workings, the design development, the construction, but there was none of that. In the end there really wasn't much of anything.

That is in no way meant to take away from the guys (and gals if applicable) in the shop who put their efforts in, and I hope things sort themselves out for those people.

I am hoping that Anderson doesn't find some other position in motorsport.

If books come out of this I will buy them, but not if penned by Anderson, and probably not if penned by Windsor.

DanShenise · 22 Mar 2010, 17:12 (Ref:2657933)

Boffin means something like smart, technical person. I think its from a Harry Potter novel or something.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 22 Mar 2010, 18:36 (Ref:2657988)

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Originally Posted by DanShenise

Boffin means something like smart, technical person. I think its from a Harry Potter novel or something.

It was a slang term for a scientist used, by the British military during WW II.

Rgms320 · 25 Mar 2010, 14:09 (Ref:2659843)

Has anyone noticed anything missing? Such as postings by disgruntled former USF1 employees?

I was expecting the net to be flooded with them after the way the employees were keelhauled. Not even a followup from CompositeKen.

Very odd.

Last2LiftOff · 25 Mar 2010, 14:10 (Ref:2659844)

*looks high and low for cone-of-silence smiley*

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Originally Posted by Elmer Fudd

Be vewy, vewy quiet.

fourWheelDrift · 25 Mar 2010, 16:36 (Ref:2659925)

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Originally Posted by Rgms320

Has anyone noticed anything missing? Such as postings by disgruntled former USF1 employees?

I was expecting the net to be flooded with them after the way the employees were keelhauled. Not even a followup from CompositeKen.

Very odd.

Perhaps they will appear later, either when they've been paid or when they know for sure they're not going to be. I think I'd be inclined to keep my mouth shut until then.

csirl · 25 Mar 2010, 17:14 (Ref:2659947)

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Originally Posted by Rgms320

Has anyone noticed anything missing? Such as postings by disgruntled former USF1 employees?

I was expecting the net to be flooded with them after the way the employees were keelhauled. Not even a followup from CompositeKen.

Very odd.

Did they have any employees other than the two who were running the team?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 25 Mar 2010, 17:23 (Ref:2659955)

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Originally Posted by csirl

Did they have any employees other than the two who were running the team?

There's that promotional video they did with Composite Ken giving a guided tour of the premises and there are some people at their computers, working on aspect the car's design.

Jimmy Magnusson · 25 Mar 2010, 17:41 (Ref:2659965)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

There's that promotional video they did with Composite Ken giving a guided tour of the premises and there are some people at their computers, working on aspect the car's design.

A few people have found new work. One of the guys in the video was Ken Anderson's son though, I believe.

Joe M-Sport · 25 Mar 2010, 18:21 (Ref:2659985)

The Chief Designer at USF1 was Ken Andersons son!.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 25 Mar 2010, 18:28 (Ref:2659989)

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Originally Posted by Joe M-Sport

The Chief Designer at USF1 was Ken Andersons son!.

You cannot be serious?

mountainstar · 25 Mar 2010, 19:38 (Ref:2660036)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

There's that promotional video they did with Composite Ken giving a guided tour of the premises and there are some people at their computers, working on aspect the car's design.

I think there were maybe 60 people there at one time, not all may have been W-2 employees.

Mr.Jingles · 25 Mar 2010, 21:07 (Ref:2660089)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

You cannot be serious?

Believe it - Jason Anderson, Nepotism beneficiary. Although technically he's the "design director":

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=358574

**bjohnsonsmith** · 25 Mar 2010, 21:25 (Ref:2660094)

Design director is somewhat different from Chief Designer, either way it's still nepotism.

Rgms320 · 25 Mar 2010, 21:27 (Ref:2660096)

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Originally Posted by fourWheelDrift

Perhaps they will appear later, either when they've been paid or when they know for sure they're not going to be. I think I'd be inclined to keep my mouth shut until then.

Hmmmm... good point. Hadn't thought of that.

JagtechOhio · 26 Mar 2010, 02:28 (Ref:2660206)

Kinda funny to read about Virgin's need to redesign their tub.

That's the kind of oversight that others might have made.

Spoke to one of the USF1 guys who was previously interviewed on camera: he's got a new gig, and mentioned others who had not yet been as fortunate. He gave no sense that there would be any "let's get the band back together" phonecalls in the future for he and his mates.

**Bononi** · 26 Mar 2010, 12:44 (Ref:2660373)

That's just sad...

Chasemm18 · 26 May 2010, 19:59 (Ref:2698811)

the fact of the matter is sir, that YOU and I were not there during this whole situation, so we don't know what really happened, only Ken, Peter, Parris and the rest of the US F1 team that were there every day in Charlotte working to get this team off the ground know what really happened, and your meeting Parris Mullins once at a race track, however long ago, doesn't give you the right to resort imature name calling, I'd like to think your ability to articulate your feelings and opinions can be done in a more intelligent manner

jab · 26 May 2010, 21:31 (Ref:2698861)

Pardon?

**bjohnsonsmith** · 26 May 2010, 22:07 (Ref:2698883)

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Originally Posted by Chasemm18

the fact of the matter is sir, that YOU and I were not there during this whole situation, so we don't know what really happened, only Ken, Peter, Parris and the rest of the US F1 team that were there every day in Charlotte working to get this team off the ground know what really happened, and your meeting Parris Mullins once at a race track, however long ago, doesn't give you the right to resort imature name calling, I'd like to think your ability to articulate your feelings and opinions can be done in a more intelligent manner

The fact no former employee of USF1 has come forward to say what actually went on, would suggest they didn't know either, or they've been effectively silenced. The one thing that is definite about USF1 is that it met the same fate as the Falcon IndyCar project, which was also under the auspices of Cuddly Ken; he seems to have a bit of a record.

ptclaus98 · 27 May 2010, 12:57 (Ref:2699220)

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Originally Posted by jab

Pardon?

Hell of a first post, huh?

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