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Old 29 Jun 2001, 20:43 (Ref:111261)   #1
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850: Williams BMW - made by BMW in Germany
835: Ferrari - made by Ferrari in Italy
825: McLaren Mercedes - made by Ilmor Engineering in the UK
825: Jaguar Cosworth - made by Cosworth Engineering (owned by Ford, as is Jaguar) in the UK
810: Sauber Petronas, Prost Acer - last year's Ferrari engines upgraded and still maintained by Ferrari in Italy
795: Bar Honda, Jordan Honda - made by Honda in Japan
770: Arrows Asiatech - last year's (Prost) Peugeot engines upgraded and maintained by Asiatech in France
770: Minardi European - 1999 Cosworth engines (from the Stewart team) upgraded by European Racing and maintained by Langford Engineering in the UK
720: Renault (Benetton) - made in France
It is not that amazing that Minardi is in front of Benetton. Not as much as it is amazing that Renault is so underpowered.
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Old 29 Jun 2001, 21:27 (Ref:111274)   #2
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It is not that amazing that Minardi is in front of Benetton. Not as much as it is amazing that Renault is so underpowered.
And Honda? They've make Villeneuve to loose another precious year
I really wonder why are they returned in f1: to cancel the glory of the past with a less than mediocre present engine? What a shame!
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Old 29 Jun 2001, 21:31 (Ref:111275)   #3
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I too am really surprised at how low the Honda engine is - it would explain a lot...
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Old 29 Jun 2001, 21:45 (Ref:111279)   #4
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Explain how Jarno got so high up on the grid frequently this year?

I believe that the Honda horsepower is higher than stated in this comparison...and that the Jaguar has a slightly lesser out put. Meanwhile, i have read somewhere that Sauber's unit is improved over the standard Ferrari (as used in the Prost) and i wouldn't be surprised if its true...Sauber do have the technical capabilities to tune an engine...
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Old 30 Jun 2001, 01:01 (Ref:111310)   #5
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They've make Villeneuve to loose another precious year
Yeah, he could be leading the CART series at the moment
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Old 30 Jun 2001, 01:29 (Ref:111315)   #6
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I have my doubts about the validity of some of these figures: most notably Honda's and Minardi's. In fact, I think there is more guess work in this compilation than reality. I suspect that the BMW, Ilmour, Ferrari and Honda teams's engine power is not constant, but varies month to month depending what extra tuning upgrades the factories can achieve. Hondad's power last year initially was quite low, but once they got reliablity, they upped the power with some fine tuning.
To be honest, I think AMoffat can probably come up with more reliable figures, depending on the type of mushrooms the guy is on at any one time.
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Old 30 Jun 2001, 01:37 (Ref:111318)   #7
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I agree VB, these are guesses at best. I noticed they did'nt give a source at that site.

It's interesting to remember that Honda & BMW entered at the same time and look at the difference. I really expected Honda to be on the pace by now. Toyota should shake them up.

I think Honda should try and get into McLaren. They need a Top team to take them to the next level.
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