Fernando Alonso: McLaren target Ferrari driver for next season

spider · 20 Sep 2013, 09:27 (Ref:3306506)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/24171278

McLaren are after Alonso...apparently.

davyboy · 20 Sep 2013, 09:31 (Ref:3306507)

I could be wrong... but in my gut I feel this is mischief making on the part of McLaren. I'm sure Dennis and Whitmarsh know exactly what their plans are for the next few years... and Alonso's unlikely to feature in them.

Biscuits In A Red Bull · 20 Sep 2013, 09:33 (Ref:3306509)

This is the classic silly season. They're probably testing Ferrari, to see how loyal they are to Alonso currently.

Perez/Button is pretty good, and has the potential to be the best, but McLaren need to provide a car that suits both before they can think about winning.

Paradise City · 20 Sep 2013, 09:33 (Ref:3306510)

I like the way Mclaren are thinking on this if true. But Alonso won't want to go there. Not because of bad blood or anything like that but because the cars haven't just been up to the mark.

spider · 20 Sep 2013, 09:35 (Ref:3306511)

Potentially trying to drive up the Telmex money to retain Perez, perhaps? Cannot see Fernando going back there...but then I couldn't really see Kimi heading back to Ferrari! Button's apparently helping to fuel the rumours too...

Teretonga · 20 Sep 2013, 09:51 (Ref:3306521)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise City

I like the way Mclaren are thinking on this if true. But Alonso won't want to go there. Not because of bad blood or anything like that but because the cars haven't just been up to the mark.

But that is only 2013, not last year or prior, and McLaren would be working towards a redemption year next year.
If Alonso joins it will not be until the end of 2014 and McLaren obviously have no intention of a repeat of 2013...

Many others will also be hoping the same, that 2014 would be a restoration to competitiveness

Knowlesy · 20 Sep 2013, 10:07 (Ref:3306531)

I just can't see it either. I doubt the mechanics would be able to look the guy in the eye after his epic 2007 meltdown for a start. How can you take him seriously if that's your experience of working with him?

Then again, Dennis is not as prominent and there is no audacious rookie there anymore so maybe it could work?

**Aysedasi** · 20 Sep 2013, 10:10 (Ref:3306533)

Well, I never thought for a moment that Raikkonen would join Alonso at Ferrari, so I now work on the basis that anything could happen.

Paradise City · 20 Sep 2013, 10:10 (Ref:3306534)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teretonga

But that is only 2013, not last year or prior, and McLaren would be working towards a redemption year next year.
If Alonso joins it will not be until the end of 2014 and McLaren obviously have no intention of a repeat of 2013...

Many others will also be hoping the same, that 2014 would be a restoration to competitiveness

They'll be playing the Honda card and tempting him with visions of recreating the old Senna days and with less focus on the years it took for Honda to gestate after their second comeback in the modern era. I doubt it'll be enough to seal that deal.

Teretonga · 20 Sep 2013, 10:14 (Ref:3306537)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paradise City

They'll be playing the Honda card and tempting him with visions of recreating the old Senna days and with less focus on the years it took for Honda to gestate after their second comeback in the modern era. I doubt it'll be enough to seal that deal.

Maybe. Time will tell.

**Bononi** · 20 Sep 2013, 15:29 (Ref:3306633)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Well, I never thought for a moment that Raikkonen would join Alonso at Ferrari, so I now work on the basis that anything could happen.

Exactly. And add to this that Alonso actually might not be happy with his future team mate.

Times are different, anything can happen.

**garcon** · 20 Sep 2013, 15:45 (Ref:3306637)

He'd be ****ing crazy to join McLaren. But then many think he is, so who knows?

**garcon** · 20 Sep 2013, 16:35 (Ref:3306652)

And another thing.

If this was football, McLaren would be charged by the FA with bringing the game into disrepute for unsettling another team's player.

This does nothing to alter my long held and completely objective (ahem

) view that McLaren are a bunch of *****.

Spritle · 20 Sep 2013, 17:35 (Ref:3306684)

And:

http://en.espnf1.com/ferrari/motorsp...ry/125861.html

But please, keep the driver threads coming or just combine this news with soon to be created mega driver thread entitled:

"Alonso, Who Vettel Would Blow Away Now That Raikkonen Has Joined Ferrari After Massa Left Ferrari, Says He is Not Planning to Leave Ferrari Unless MacLaren Isn’t Good For Button!"

TrapezeArtist · 20 Sep 2013, 21:13 (Ref:3306792)

A masterful bit of gamesmanship by McLaren:
Unsettle Ferrari
Unsettle Alonso
Put some pressure on for a few mil of extra Mexican money
Put some pressure on Checo to raise his game

Teretonga · 20 Sep 2013, 22:06 (Ref:3306820)

Nah
'Nando knows that Ferrari is his butter spreader for the next three years and would like to renew the contract and go further (See Gp update) into the future if he can....
Its just gamesmanship as indicated above...
But McLaren has Magnussen and Vandoorne waiting in the Renault 3.5 wings so there's their future prospects already in waiting. The next Hamilton?

321Go · 21 Sep 2013, 00:44 (Ref:3306887)

No Alonso at McLaren next year. Won't happen.

But, next year will be Sergio's last at McLaren as a full time driver.
Is what I believe.

wnut · 21 Sep 2013, 01:17 (Ref:3306892)

Quote:

Originally Posted by davyboy

I could be wrong... but in my gut I feel this is mischief making on the part of McLaren. I'm sure Dennis and Whitmarsh know exactly what their plans are for the next few years... and Alonso's unlikely to feature in them.

Yup, and anyone that believes that Ron is not still firmly in control at McLaren is deluded and clearly doesn't know Ron!

Alonso to McLaren

!

**Bononi** · 21 Sep 2013, 01:39 (Ref:3306901)

Quote:

Originally Posted by wnut

Yup, and anyone that believes that Ron is not still firmly in control at McLaren is deluded and clearly doesn't know Ron!

Alonso to McLaren

!

An old dog never leaves his favorite bone to others...

wnut · 21 Sep 2013, 04:34 (Ref:3306930)

http://www.pitpass.com/49938/The-gutter-press

Context is everything.

**Aysedasi** · 21 Sep 2013, 07:48 (Ref:3306948)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 321Go

No Alonso at McLaren next year. Won't happen.

But, next year will be Sergio's last at McLaren as a full time driver.
Is what I believe.

Does that mean he going to drive part-time - todays driver, tomorrow's mechanic?

**Bononi** · 21 Sep 2013, 12:58 (Ref:3307003)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aysedasi

Does that mean he going to drive part-time - todays driver, tomorrow's mechanic?

...or commentator ?

Teretonga · 21 Sep 2013, 13:54 (Ref:3307020)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 321Go

No Alonso at McLaren next year. Won't happen.

But, next year will be Sergio's last at McLaren as a full time driver.
Is what I believe.

Sergio showed in 2012 that he was a coming man, potentially a GP winner. The current McLaren is a bit of a dog of a car. McLaren have acknowledged that. Perez has hounded Button who has been a McLaren race winner in the past and there were suggestions of him being too aggressive with Button in races.

Now you're telling me he's not fast enough?
He may be passed over for 2015, but only if they find someone who is much faster, or a Hamilton, or Alonso

**chunterer** · 21 Sep 2013, 14:54 (Ref:3307030)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teretonga

Sergio showed in 2012 that he was a coming man, potentially a GP winner. The current McLaren is a bit of a dog of a car. McLaren have acknowledged that. Perez has hounded Button who has been a McLaren race winner in the past and there were suggestions of him being too aggressive with Button in races.

Now you're telling me he's not fast enough?
He may be passed over for 2015, but only if they find someone who is much faster, or a Hamilton, or Alonso

Spot on.

Button is the known quantity and they know he can't take it to Alonso, Vettel or Hamilton on a consistent basis, so that is one seat that will definitely be free at the end of next season, unless of course the car is title winning calibre in which case his experience will come to bear....

With Checo they still think he has something, the potential to at least be better than Jenson and i'm sure they would prefer to keep one driver than change completely.

I bet that they will keep whoever outshines the other next season but then again in the car is rubbish again why would either driver want to stay anyway?

Mr V · 21 Sep 2013, 16:30 (Ref:3307048)

Fernando will end up at McLaren in 2015 in my opinion.

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