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30 Nov 2013, 09:24 (Ref:3338508) | #26 | ||
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This thread is all speculation at the moment, we "might" be looking at "will he beat Seb" in a race not necessarily a win !
None of us knows how things will work out next year, maybe another team will dominate ! |
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30 Nov 2013, 10:50 (Ref:3338527) | #27 | |
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Assuming he has the car, I think he may get a few podiums. I think Vettel will show him a clean set of heals.
It is probably not a reasonable comparison though he seemed to use his tyres in the same way as Webber whereas Vergne seemed to be more like Vettel with his. If he does have Webber's speed, then he stands a much better chance of a good points score if he can get it off the line. I would be interested to know who many places webber lost on average due to a poor start. Wouldn't surprise me if it was 3 to 4. I like Mark and Daniel though it appears as though Vettel is quite special by comparison. |
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Vettel like all the other drivers will have to learn how to get the car off the mark in a turbo car that none of the drivers on the grid have ever raced before. One thing it will be interesting to see the first race !! |
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30 Nov 2013, 11:22 (Ref:3338537) | #29 | |
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We all can't wait for Australia. I personally would like to see Magnussen on pole, but get beaten in a race-long duel by Geido van der Garde
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Rumour from Red Bull is that Vergne is on seriously borrowed time and will be very lucky to see out 2014. Either Sainz or Da - Costa (who is still supported by RB next year, well at the moment atleast) will most likely be in that seat by silverstone.
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I think Webber's greatest strength at RBRI was because he knew how to set the car up while Vettel would copy Webber's homework. The biggest thing that could back fire for the Milton Keyes based team is that Riccardo doesn't have similar set up know-how like Webber causing Vettel to suffer. (Although the 2014 regs would be an even keel for everyone being new tech and all)
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Ricciardo will be outperformed but he is race sharp, the cars are "reset" so maybe he'll spring a surprise or two and be closer than Webber was.
Magnussen is going to get annihilated next year though. Dodgy Mercs, tight testing regime and woeful in-experience. A win next year? ahahahahahaha Don't get me wrong if the guy is given time to mature I think he'll become a force. I rate him. But 2014 he's going to make an ass of himself. I trust McLaren will stay the course with him and be sober enough to see him as an investment for the new Honda era, when the powerplants should be tasty. But 2014? Learning year. |
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Ricco has about as much chance at winning a race as Kovalainen did against Hamilton, maybe just a smidgen more. Unless Vettel has something go majorly wrong, I don't think Daniel will beat him fair and square. Not in 2014 anyway.
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Guys don't take the thread starter too seriously, us Aussies are well experienced with his trolling in the Australian Touring Car sub forum.
Whilst I think Dan will do well next year, a win is too much to ask in a debut year with the team and such a strong teammate. |
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Vettel may not win in 2014, but knowing him and Newey, that is far less likely than a Vettel-dominated season... |
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Why are some people so sure that a) the Mercedes-Benz units will be useless and b) the Honda ones will be great? None of them has turned a wheel.
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No idea. But the Honda will probably good as they'll have an extra season of development and an extra season to see where others go wrong.
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An extra season of development but one season fewer of actual running.
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a) Because Merc-Works are trying to win and won't want to give a top spec powerplant to a competitor and b) Honda will have plenty of leisure to learn lessons, develop the engine so as to hit the ground running. If the Honda isn't a good one for 2015, then it will be one at a later date. That's the basis of my prediction.
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Aren't the engines basically sealed in terms of development? So all the Merc teams will have the same spec?
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