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Old 29 Nov 2013, 16:06 (Ref:3338178)   #1
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Compulsory pit stops in F1

Pathetic. As if one compulsory stop isn't already one too many.

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Old 29 Nov 2013, 16:13 (Ref:3338179)   #2
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 16:43 (Ref:3338198)   #3
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 17:40 (Ref:3338219)   #4
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Pathetic. As if one compulsory stop isn't already one too many.
It seems like a reasonable compromise between no stops and 3 or 4 stops.

This is exactly what Pirelli said would happen if they didn't get agreement between the teams to come up with test dates to test their tyres on.

It should be a lot of fun trying to figure out who has to pit when, and what tyres they need to put on.
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 17:50 (Ref:3338229)   #5
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Dont let racing get in the way of the pit stop,tyre conservation, fuel economy run competition F1 has become these days.
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 17:53 (Ref:3338231)   #6
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"drivers will not be allowed to use the 'prime' specification of tyres for more than 50 per cent of the race distance, while the 'option' compound will not be allowed to be used for more than 30 per cent of the race distance."

so what do they use for the remaining 20% - wets?
I had to check it's not April 1st.....
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 17:55 (Ref:3338234)   #7
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Oh, for goodness sake. It's already difficult enough for fans to figure out what the strategy is, without having to consider whether or not a team's getting close to their 30% on the option tire or whatever.

I say - give the teams both tires, don't mandate that they need to use both, and let the strategists duel it out as to which tire goes on the car, when, and for how long.

As for mandatory pit stops - that's ridiculous.
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 17:56 (Ref:3338236)   #8
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"drivers will not be allowed to use the 'prime' specification of tyres for more than 50 per cent of the race distance, while the 'option' compound will not be allowed to be used for more than 30 per cent of the race distance."

so what do they use for the remaining 20% - wets?
I had to check it's not April 1st.....
Also - BWAAA HA HA HA HA! Drive-through penalties for every team, every race!

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Old 29 Nov 2013, 18:33 (Ref:3338250)   #9
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For the remaining 20% you could use either tyre, but you must make a stop for it.

For example: 30% soft tyre 1st stint. 50% hard tyre 2nd stint. 20% hard tyre 3rd stint.

I would also think that 2 stops would be a minimum number of stops, so 3 or 4 stops would also be acceptable.

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Old 29 Nov 2013, 18:41 (Ref:3338254)   #10
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For the remaining 20% you could use either tyre, but you must make a stop for it.

For example: 30% soft tyre 1st stint. 50% hard tyre 2nd stint. 20% hard tyre 3rd stint.

I would also think that 2 stops would be a minimum number of stops, so 3 or 4 stops would also be acceptable.
Wow! Marbot, I'll vote for you to take over from Bernie, not everyone managed to work that one out
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 19:21 (Ref:3338273)   #12
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 20:28 (Ref:3338304)   #13
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In this case, I'd like to see Red Bull domination again, just to annoy the organizers who try to create a fake show out of tire strategy.
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 21:30 (Ref:3338333)   #14
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It now means that Pirelli can make their tyres hard and extra hard for all races no need for different tyres for each track seems such a waste of tyres.
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 21:46 (Ref:3338339)   #15
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No, no & thrice No!!!

This is meant to be F1 - The supposed 'Pinnacle'..... it's turning into a purely entertainment series with every year/ rule change.
Fine for a National series; i;e BTCC, DTM, etc but for F1........?? 'Epic fail'.
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 22:40 (Ref:3338354)   #16
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why even bother driving a race then. just make f1 a pitstop contest
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Old 29 Nov 2013, 22:58 (Ref:3338363)   #17
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I don't get why people are bemoaning this...the way the tyres have been of late it's been pretty much compulsory 2 stops anyway.
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I don't get why people are bemoaning this...the way the tyres have been of late it's been pretty much compulsory 2 stops anyway.
IIRC, when there was refuelling, fuel tanks held only enough fuel to last for maybe a bit more than one third race distance. Of course, this wasn't actually written into the regulations, but the practicalities of the situation ensured that you had to stop at least twice during a race for fuel, and usually for tyres as well, even if they weren't actually worn.

Was the 'sprint-stop-sprint-stop-sprint' era, any worse or better than this proposal?
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wouldnt this rule eliminate the logic of early pit stops (after 2-3 laps in)?
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Great Idea! As long as the tyres can be driven hard and no one has to "manage" their tyres, I'm all for it. No more procession after 2 laps!
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For the remaining 20% you could use either tyre, but you must make a stop for it.

For example: 30% soft tyre 1st stint. 50% hard tyre 2nd stint. 20% hard tyre 3rd stint.

I would also think that 2 stops would be a minimum number of stops, so 3 or 4 stops would also be acceptable.
Oh I see, they missed out the words 'per stint'. Written by the same bloke who wrote the Blue Book I suppose. Unprofessional rabble....
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wouldnt this rule eliminate the logic of early pit stops (after 2-3 laps in)?
It could still be an option if qually is done on the short range tyres. Pitting after 4 or 5% and then 2 full runs on the longer range tyre.

It would be a gutsy call as the driver would have to overtake probably 5 or 6 cars without being held up, each time out of the pits.
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Great Idea! As long as the tyres can be driven hard and no one has to "manage" their tyres, I'm all for it. No more procession after 2 laps!

Glad to see I'm not the only one who agrees with this move...
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Old 30 Nov 2013, 12:45 (Ref:3338571)   #24
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They should have 7 in each race like the Bathurst 1000 this year, made for an awesome finish.
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Why not go for Bernies proposed pitstop rules for 1989.

If you win 1 race then you have to make 1 compulsory pitstop each race for the rest of the year, win 2 races you must make two, with a maximum set at 3 stops per race (even if you win 13)

If you haven't won any races, feel free to have a crack at getting through in one go
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