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20 Jul 2011, 03:09 (Ref:2928796) | #26 | |
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they arent losing 50hp from only a .4mm change i dont think....i think they should be around 470ish like the rest of the boys.
BMW is an example of a team that has eveything,absoltuely everything, going right at the moment..which is more to why they are dominating.......You, me and the world all know that a fast car means so little in endurance racing. They have the strongest driving lineup of any team.....Full support($$$) and expertise of BMW Motorsport....And wicked car....when you get that kind of lineup of course your going to dominate..... Remember the Risi Ferrari F430 of 2009......They were by far the quickest car out there.....And they could not put it together......Constant mistakes and messups....a team is a heck of a lot more than a car and i hope everyone realizes that...You need people who don't screw up fuel numbers(Risi petit lemans),people who dont screw up pit stops, you need engineering expertise, you need a reliable car(ferrari don't have one). Sooo many things can go wrong in a race and that has not happened for BMW. dont think for a second that they don't deserve they're success....they have not put a foot wrong all season compared to Every other team in the paddock.....(Lizards at sebring,Risi every weekend,Corvette's iffy driving lineup, Dyson, every LMPC etc...) Last edited by Audi Racer; 20 Jul 2011 at 03:19. |
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Their car is absolutely splendid too. Perhaps it is the new way to achieve an old-fashioned ideal, petition the sanctioning body for waivers (as everyone does) and whoever does the best job of swaying the opinions of the decision makers builds the best car. It's a new slant on interpreting the rules like they did in the 'good old days.' Chris |
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I agree that they have everything right t the moment. but they also have the fastest car..... If we forget the waivers, they still have the fastest car because it is BoPed, and that just isnt right. No car that is BoPed shoud ever be the Fastest in my oppinion. BoP serves to make it competitive not the fastest, because then it comes down to the ACO/IMSA to chose the fastest car and that just isnt right....BTW the only Endurance race they won in ACO sancitioned racing is Sebring. BTW now they have over 500hp, with the 1.2mm Bop, while porsche at the 28.6mm restrictors have 455hp. those are official figures, who knows what they both have at the track. |
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As for Porsche's tyre problems being due to "pushing" I'm sceptical. Maybe Michelin genuinely are on the back foot?? Not to say they're not strong, they clearly are. But how much reality is being denied on the basis of previous reputation. The best wet tyre in ALMS is Falken - clear from the wet session at Lime Rock. The best dry tyre might still be Michelin, but the gap is tiny and Dunlop had a more durable tyre at Lime Rock. People interpret the data based on a particular world view, and that view often doesn't change until well after the facts have. Textbook example; the Ford GT got a smaller restrictor because it was believed it would be too fast on Michelin - they then had to give them the restrictor back when it was clear that switching to Michelin hadn't made them faster at all... Ben Last edited by ubrben; 20 Jul 2011 at 08:37. |
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Had BMW been more 'careful' with their pace like this year, they could've easily avoided the smaller restrictor ACO issued for Le Mans...
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BTW, If you want to talk about "managing pace" I suggest you look at the Lime Rock speed traps for the Lizard Porsche. Having spent the whole race largely below 238km/h max speed they all of a sudden were turning nearly 240km/h down the front straight at the end of the race. Not to mention exceeding their qualifying lap time on full tanks during the race. But wait - apparently they were just attacking kerbs to find the speed... Ben |
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Well, if Porsche are "managing pace", I wish they would stop it, as it doesn't seem to be providing them any race/championship results.
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I know what you meant, but the actually percent of races under 3 hours is 55.55% (5/9 races). Just for comparison, the LMS runs 5 6-hour races for a total of 30 hours of racing. In the ALMS' 4 endurance races they run for approximately 31 hours (depending on how long Petit takes).
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Iffy driver lineup for Corvette??????? You could probably put up a 10 minute youtube compilation of all the crashes and incidents Bill Auberlen has been involved in.
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You're actually blaming Milner for Auberlen's whacko driving? He was the one that got out of shape when Porsche overtook him, it's no wonder there's contact when you have heavy traffic and a car that's slowly moving towards the fountain. I suppose you're also blaming others when Auberlen got stuck and BRILLIANTLY blocked his team mate when he finally got going?
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The West Racing team said a few weeks back that they were going to miss the next couple of races (I'm not sure which races exactly, although obviously Mosport is one of them) while they are developing a new Lambo. We'll see if they come back and how strong they are.
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Where was that announced?
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As for Milner being slow as someone suggested - it's more inconsistency for me. He's still young and relatively inexperienced at this level. His stint at Sebring in the BMW (around 5pm) was the fastest (in terms of green average lap time) of any BMW driver in the race, but other days he's not quite there. A lot of potential though and a really nice kid - that matter too whether you like it or not. Ben |
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In my opinion, if a driver goes off the track/stops/slows/whatever and then attempts to rejoin, it is that driver's responsibility to safely rejoin the race.
Not meaning it as a shot at Auberlen, it was a tough spot for him and there wasn't much room, but Milner was on the racing line and moving at race pace, it was Auberlen's job to make sure he was not banging into the side of someone whilst attempting to re-enter the racing line. |
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