british f3 silverstone 2nd & 3rd may 2009

Richard B · 29 Apr 2009, 18:52 (Ref:2452365)

Predictions for Silverstone? will anybody beat Daniel Ricciardo?
Would be good to see Nick Tandy win so I'll go for Ricciardo to win, then I'll be pleased if my prediction is right and even more so if I'm wrong and Nick wins.

1 Daniel Ricciardo
2 Nick Tandy
3 Oliver Oakes (needs a good result)
Nat Class
1 Daniel McKenzie
2 Victor Correa ( I know a brave bet)
3 Max Snegirev

strider · 29 Apr 2009, 22:18 (Ref:2452475)

Hitech have pulled off something of a coup by doing what looks like a one-off deal for this weekend with the experienced Dutch driver, Renger van der Zande.

It will be a tall order for him to do well on a circuit he doesn't know using Cooper tyres (sorry,tires) he doesn't know either, but he has the class to shine. Let's hope does and that the deal becomes a permanent one. Story here.

**bella** · 30 Apr 2009, 00:13 (Ref:2452509)

shifted this off to start a new thread - if i've forgotten a post please feel free to shout abuse!

10 day weather forecast - http://uk.weather.com/weather/10day-Buckingham-UKXX0687

Petrol Head · 30 Apr 2009, 08:27 (Ref:2452660)

I am finding it hard not to pick Ricciardo to win at least one of the races - he is looking like the real deal to me?

Is it the full GP circuit this weekend?

roys1 · 30 Apr 2009, 08:30 (Ref:2452665)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Petrol Head

Is it the full GP circuit this weekend?

Yes it is on the full 3.194 miles GP circuit

Last2LiftOff · 30 Apr 2009, 11:56 (Ref:2452824)

Silverstone...sweet.

Various OBC British F3

Is there a timetable out there anywhere? And bringing the tsl link forward from the Oulton thread (that is if I did it right).

strider · 30 Apr 2009, 14:07 (Ref:2452923)

Thanks for getting this started, bella. I was thinking about it, but lacked inspiration. However, I'll add some information to show willing.

This is the F3 timetable. If you want the full version, it's probably on www.fiagt.com.

Friday, May 1
09:00 to 09:30 Practice session 1
13:50 to 14:20 Practice session 2

Saturday, May 2
09:00 to 09:30 Qualifying session 1
12:10 to 12:40 Qualifying session 2

Sunday, May 3
13:00 Race 1, for a maximum 30 minutes
17:45 Race 2, for a maximum 30 minutes

I think that means the F3s are first on the track tomorrow morning and last off it on Sunday evening. Nice.

There's a race preview here, and you can find some other stories there, too.

Sorry, L2LO, the timing link is different, because the FIA GTs use MST, not TSL. You should go here, click on Cooper Tires British F3 and then click on Live Timing for support races [top right].

As it's Silverstone, there will be hardly any overtaking unless it's wet, so qualifying and the race starts are all important.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Mercedes-powered winner or two, because I think their engine is better than the VW and the straight bits will give it a chance to stretch its legs, more so than at Oulton, so maybe Nick Tandy will turn the tables on Ricciardo.

The Mugen-Honda is even stronger, but CF Racing need to give Hywel Lloyd a better chassis. If you don't believe me, check the speed trap figures for Oulton and again for Silverstone when the action gets under way.

If it's wet then, yes, Ricciardo is your man.

Peralta · 30 Apr 2009, 19:17 (Ref:2453134)

My money is on Adriano Buzaid. He has being quick there and am sure he wants to prove a point. T-Sport much better than what they showed at Oulton Park. Will look to make amends.

strider · 1 May 2009, 08:36 (Ref:2453436)

it seems that the free practice times for British F3 have been changed, so apologies to anyone who attempted to get them earlier.

The full timetable from the FIA GT website is now:

Code:

Friday 1st May
09.40 – 10.20 GT4 European Cup Free Practice 1 40’
10.30 – 11.00 Cooper Tires British F3 International Series Free Practice 1 30’
11.10 – 12.10 FIA GT3 European Championship Free Practice 1 60’
12.20 – 13.00 GT4 European Cup Free Practice 2 40’
13.10 – 13.40 Media Laps & Supercar Tour
14.30 - 15.30 FIA GT3 European Championship Free Practice 2 60’
15.40 – 16.10 Cooper Tires British F3 International Series Free Practice 2 30’
16.20 – 17.00 GT4 European Cup Qualifying Practice 15/10/15
17.10 – 18.30 FIA GT Championship Free Practice 80’
 

Saturday 2nd May
09.00 – 09.30 Cooper Tires British F3 International Series Qualifying Session 1 30’
09.40 – 10.30 FIA GT3 European Championship Qualifying Session 20/10/20
10.40 – 12.00 FIA GT Championship Pre-Qualifying Session 80’
12.10 – 12.40 Cooper Tires British F3 International Series Qualifying Session 2 30’
14.30 – 15.30 FIA GT3 European Championship Race 1 60’
15.55 – 16.35 GT4 European Cup Race 1 40’
16.45 – 17.20 FIA GT Championship Qualifying Practice 15/5/15
 

Sunday 3rd May
09.00 – 09.30 FIA GT Championship Warm Up 30’
09.55 – 10.35 GT4 European Cup Race 2 40’
10.40 – 11.10 Pit Walk
11.30 – 12.30 FIA GT3 European Championship Race 2 60’
13.00 – 13.30 Cooper Tires British F3 International Series Race 1 30’
13.45 FIA GT Championship Pit lane open
14.15 – 16.15 FIA GT Championship Race 120’
16.45 – 17.15 Cooper Tires British F3 International Series Race 2 30’

Last2LiftOff · 1 May 2009, 12:55 (Ref:2453588)

Thanks for the updates Strider, capital. Qualifying seems awfully early but the race times look pretty perfect.

strider · 1 May 2009, 15:41 (Ref:2453666)

No problem L2LO; good to see you posting on a BF3 thread again.

First free practice session times here. Second free practice sessions here.

It looks like I shall have some humble pie to eat about Ricciardo, but let's see what qualifying brings, says he not very hopefully.

Very good effort by van der Zande.

Sorry, Peralta, Buzaid is not at the really sharp end just yet, but welcome to the forum anyway.

wdj · 1 May 2009, 20:12 (Ref:2453796)

Hello, my name is Walter and I would like to join the forum

Richard B · 1 May 2009, 20:16 (Ref:2453799)

Did Jay run today, couldn't see his name on the times?

wdj · 1 May 2009, 21:08 (Ref:2453817)

Hello,

I'm very impressed with the pace Dan Mackenzie and Gabriel Dias are developing in National Class.

Today the former Fortec Eurocup team mates (Dias ahead) got a gap around half a second to third overall!

strider · 1 May 2009, 21:26 (Ref:2453832)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard B

Did Jay run today, couldn't see his name on the times?

No, he didn't.

Peralta said May 2, which is tomorrow and would mean going straight into qualifying having missed the test today. It sounds very unlikely to me, particularly since at the FIA GT meetings the cars are scrutineered before the practice sessions and they are part of the meeting. Maybe the guys simply ran out of time.

bella, any chance of sliding these posts into the Silverstone thread?

alias99 · 2 May 2009, 01:01 (Ref:2453932)

Looks like my pre season prediction of riccardo is paying of hopefully strider remembers me as he made a apredciton at the same time

strider · 2 May 2009, 01:13 (Ref:2453938)

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias99

Looks like my pre-season prediction of ricciardo is paying of hopefully strider remembers me as he made a a prediction at the same time

Yeah,yeah...

Would this be the one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias99

i would like to go on record to say that he will win the championship

Truth is, if I had been going down to the bookies to spend some real money, I would have gone the same way as you.

But I wasn't, so I made a prediction that was guided more by my heart than my head, and I'm still going to be cheering for Nick, come what may.

It's nothing personal towards anyone else, just that I think the team and the driver do a great job with the resources available to them.

wdj · 2 May 2009, 09:04 (Ref:2454031)

Ok, Qualifying 1 done, Ricciardo (don't know what happens, did only 3 laps) and Nick fail, session well done by Chilton, Van der Zande, Buzaid and Dias (i believe isn't easy to keep the F-307 within a gap around one second to best F-309 at the GP circuit)

strider · 2 May 2009, 10:44 (Ref:2454078)

Full Q1 report and times here. Ricciardo crashed out after a late start to the session, but Carlin often hold their cars back at the start of a session. The tyres are only at their best for a limited number of laps.

It looks like Tandy was just plain slow, although he was so far down maybe he had a problem.

Yes, Dias did do well, as he was ahead McKenzie, who has usually been the pace-setter in the National Class so far.

Times for those who don't want to click on the link:

Code:

Pos  Driver                Team       Car  Time       Gap
 1.  Max Chilton           Carlin     D/V  1m39.798s
 2.  Renger van der Zande  Hitech     D/M  1m39.819s  + 0.021s
 3.  Adriano Buzaid        T-Sport    D/V  1m39.867s  + 0.069s
 4.  Daisuke Nakajima      Double R   D/M  1m39.911s  + 0.113s
 5.  Riki Christodoulou    Fortec     D/M  1m39.929s  + 0.131s
 6.  Walter Grubmuller     Hitech     D/M  1m40.201s  + 0.403s
 7.  Henry Arundel         Carlin     D/V  1m40.327s  + 0.529s
 8.  Oliver Oakes          Carlin     D/V  1m40.376s  + 0.578s
 9.  Carlos Huertas        Double R   D/M  1m40.424s  + 0.626s
10.  Wayne Boyd            T-Sport    D/V  1m40.543s  + 0.745s
11.  Daniel Ricciardo      Carlin     D/V  1m40.905s  + 1.107s
12.  Victor Garcia         Fortec     D/M  1m40.949s  + 1.151s
13.  Gabriel Dias          T-Sport    D/H  1m40.974s  + 1.176s
14.  Daniel McKenzie       Fortec     D/M  1m41.111s  + 1.313s
15.  Nick Tandy            JTR        M/M  1m41.210s  + 1.412s
16.  Hywel Lloyd           CF Racing  D/H  1m41.323s  + 1.525s
17.  Victor Correa         Litespeed  S/H  1m43.201s  + 3.403s
18.  Stephane Richelmi     Barazi     D/M  1m43.431s  + 3.633s
19.  Max Snegirev          West-Tec   D/H  1m44.142s  + 4.344s

Arty B · 2 May 2009, 11:05 (Ref:2454088)

Forgive me if I have not been paying attention but where is the other West-Tec car?

Mak · 2 May 2009, 12:28 (Ref:2454112)

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider

Thanks for getting this started, bella. I was thinking about it, but lacked inspiration. However, I'll add some information to show willing.

This is the F3 timetable. If you want the full version, it's probably on www.fiagt.com.

Friday, May 1
09:00 to 09:30 Practice session 1
13:50 to 14:20 Practice session 2

Saturday, May 2
09:00 to 09:30 Qualifying session 1
12:10 to 12:40 Qualifying session 2

Sunday, May 3
13:00 Race 1, for a maximum 30 minutes
17:45 Race 2, for a maximum 30 minutes

I think that means the F3s are first on the track tomorrow morning and last off it on Sunday evening. Nice.

There's a race preview here, and you can find some other stories there, too.

Sorry, L2LO, the timing link is different, because the FIA GTs use MST, not TSL. You should go here, click on Cooper Tires British F3 and then click on Live Timing for support races [top right].

As it's Silverstone, there will be hardly any overtaking unless it's wet, so qualifying and the race starts are all important.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a Mercedes-powered winner or two, because I think their engine is better than the VW and the straight bits will give it a chance to stretch its legs, more so than at Oulton, so maybe Nick Tandy will turn the tables on Ricciardo.

The Mugen-Honda is even stronger, but CF Racing need to give Hywel Lloyd a better chassis. If you don't believe me, check the speed trap figures for Oulton and again for Silverstone when the action gets under way.

If it's wet then, yes, Ricciardo is your man.

Sorry Strider, think your way off with your ideas on what make a good engine. Being fastest in a speed trap has nothing to do with it. There are so many variables (wings, ride heights, driver techniques, caster/camber, suspension geometry ect ect...)and very often the fastest in the traps are amoung the slowest on lap times. I think all the engines are similar, with slight difference in performance profiles and weight distribution. At the end of the day a good driver with a well setup car could win with any of them at any track.

strider · 2 May 2009, 13:36 (Ref:2454139)

Thanks so much for the valuable insight, although I am actually aware of the many variables in setting up an F3 car.

Off topic, but why quote the entire post when you're only dealing with the last few short paragraphs?

wannab-aracer · 2 May 2009, 16:59 (Ref:2454183)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arty B

Forgive me if I have not been paying attention but where is the other West-Tec car?

Jay Bridger split from West-Tec after Oulton.

Although not ready for Silverstone he has started his own outfit Bridger Motorsport. Using the Mygale chassis.

**gomick** · 3 May 2009, 01:48 (Ref:2454326)

Great speed shown again by Max Chilton - want happened to Ricciardo in Q1

, glad he was quicker in Q2...

Last2LiftOff · 3 May 2009, 12:13 (Ref:2454538)

Weather Bright
Track Dry
Live Timing A Little Dodgy

Chilton's consistently faster than van der Zande, I take it there's no way by (and he's running out of time).

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