BTCC ITV coverage

redshoes · 8 Apr 2010, 21:18 (Ref:2669112)

Surprised no one has mentioned this yet.

http://www.btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1873
ITV won't be showing the final race from Rockingham live due to coverage of the Indian Premier League cricket final. Rockingham coverage now finishes at 3.15pm with an extra 90 min program later that night at 8.30pm.

As usual the positive spin on this is that it gives the series prime time coverage.

touring fan01 · 8 Apr 2010, 21:37 (Ref:2669124)

So one race out of 30 is not live. No big deal.
With the amount of TV time the BTCC gets we cant really grumble!

Craner Curves · 8 Apr 2010, 21:45 (Ref:2669127)

And what happens when the cricket overruns?

White flag man · 8 Apr 2010, 22:03 (Ref:2669133)

It's a no ball!

Sodemo · 8 Apr 2010, 22:29 (Ref:2669150)

I thought this was going to be a thread having a general grumble about the quality of the coverage. Oh well, i'll have a moan anyway;

Why is it that the on-board cameras now are so poor? A few years ago we used to have fantastic quality on boards which weren't shaking about all over the place, you could see the driver, steering wheel and gearstick all in one shot. Now all we get is a locked off shot of the view through the windscreen from the dash, or a facing driver view camera.

The older mounted cameras were great, as you could see the track ahead, the driver at work, the wheel movements and the gearshifts. Why is it they have gone backwards?

Craner Curves · 8 Apr 2010, 23:02 (Ref:2669160)

Maybe because the TOCA SpyCam is in the prime spot on the rollcage.

**ScotsBrutesFan** · 8 Apr 2010, 23:03 (Ref:2669161)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sodemo

I thought this was going to be a thread having a general grumble about the quality of the coverage. Oh well, i'll have a moan anyway;

Why is it that the on-board cameras now are so poor? A few years ago we used to have fantastic quality on boards which weren't shaking about all over the place, you could see the driver, steering wheel and gearstick all in one shot. Now all we get is a locked off shot of the view through the windscreen from the dash, or a facing driver view camera.

The older mounted cameras were great, as you could see the track ahead, the driver at work, the wheel movements and the gearshifts. Why is it they have gone backwards?

The camera mounting places that the TV companies used to have access to, are now taken up by the official camera that records the full race distance that is used by the stewards post race to come to the conclusion that Matt Neal won't get the penalty his "Demolition Derby" approach deserves.

Edit: beaten to it by Craner

touring fan01 · 8 Apr 2010, 23:06 (Ref:2669162)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Craner Curves

And what happens when the cricket overruns?

Huh?
How can it overrun?
The match starts at 3.30 on that Rockingham afternoon and its the final of the series!

Alfa Fan · 8 Apr 2010, 23:16 (Ref:2669165)

Have you ever watched cricket?

touring fan01 · 9 Apr 2010, 00:03 (Ref:2669182)

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Originally Posted by Alfa Fan

Have you ever watched cricket?

You dont understand. The cricket match starts at 3.30 which is after the Rockingham broadcast. So how can the cricket match overrun possibly effect the BTCC broadcast when the match starts after the finish of the BTCC broadcast?!

courageous · 9 Apr 2010, 00:24 (Ref:2669190)

Thing that bothered me about the coverage was they seemed to try and be a bit of an everyman - knowing that the casual viewer will only be interested in the BTCC they did plenty of waffle on them; but also knowing that hardcore petrolheads would be a sizeable chunk of the audience they throw in the support races without really building them up (although Frenault got a bit of a big up) so the commentators have to do that while the race is going on.

it is a difficult juggling act & I am not saying they got it wrong, but they got it wrong *for me*

redshoes · 9 Apr 2010, 07:08 (Ref:2669279)

Quote:

Originally Posted by touring fan01

You dont understand. The cricket match starts at 3.30 which is after the Rockingham broadcast. So how can the cricket match overrun possibly effect the BTCC broadcast when the match starts after the finish of the BTCC broadcast?!

Craner is referring to the second part of the BTCC coverage in the evening. If the cricket isn't finished by 8.30pm what happens then?

11:00 - 15:15 BTCC Live
15:15 - ???? IPL Live
20:30 - 22:00 BTCC part two

Peat · 9 Apr 2010, 07:16 (Ref:2669284)

The IPL is run by the 20/20 rules. So time is managed very closley. I wouldn't say im a cricket fan in particular, but i have been watching teh IPL while eating my dinner the last few weeks and its actually really entertaining.

touring fan01 · 9 Apr 2010, 08:17 (Ref:2669306)

Quote:

Originally Posted by redshoes

Craner is referring to the second part of the BTCC coverage in the evening. If the cricket isn't finished by 8.30pm what happens then?

11:00 - 15:15 BTCC Live
15:15 - ???? IPL Live
20:30 - 22:00 BTCC part two

Its 20/20 cricket so the time schedule is much more definitive. And the BTCC highlights are obviously not live so it doesn't matter if they start a bit later than advertised. They just time-shift the program.

stedevil · 9 Apr 2010, 08:22 (Ref:2669308)

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Originally Posted by ScotsBrutesFan

The camera mounting places that the TV companies used to have access to, are now taken up by the official camera that records the full race distance that is used by the stewards post race...

The question that still begs for an answer is... why isn't the TV company allowed to use the same video feed as the stewards?

touring fan01 · 9 Apr 2010, 08:44 (Ref:2669324)

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Originally Posted by stedevil

The question that still begs for an answer is... why isn't the TV company allowed to use the same video feed as the stewards?

Not a matter of being allowed, its just impossible to do because one is recorded to a disc and the other is beamed out live.

skells22 · 9 Apr 2010, 09:13 (Ref:2669337)

That messed my plans up as i was planning to record the races and as we know Cricket could be rained off. Is ITV planning a channel hop for race 3 as i hate Cricket!

kezza7 · 9 Apr 2010, 09:40 (Ref:2669354)

I do beleive it doesn't rain all that much in the indian summer.

SamWaters · 9 Apr 2010, 10:49 (Ref:2669386)

Consider yourselves lucky, at least you guys to get see all but one race of the season, the only races I will see is the ones that I will be at (Brands Hatch).

Since ITV messed around with ITV4 last year, we haven't been able to receive it, ITV4 will show up on the channel list, but is completely un-watchable.

duke_toaster · 9 Apr 2010, 10:51 (Ref:2669387)

http://www.itv.com/Channels/ITV4/def...l?vodcrid=sim4 and then "Watch ITV4 live"?

gregc · 9 Apr 2010, 11:02 (Ref:2669392)

Quote:

Originally Posted by touring fan01

Not a matter of being allowed, its just impossible to do because one is recorded to a disc and the other is beamed out live.

Recorded to memory card, to be pedantic about it

Also, the footage that is recorded by the spycams is nowhere near broadcast quality.

sceptic · 9 Apr 2010, 11:40 (Ref:2669409)

The cricket won't over-run, it's 20 overs each, so will be finished in plenty of time. Then there will be an hour of rugby highlights at 7.30, and then the BTCC at 8.30.

The spycams in the cars aren't anywhere near broadcast quality, so while they are viewable when you watch back directly from the memory card on a small screen, by the time they've been through your average Sky box you'd see no detail at all.

However it's wrong to say the only TV on-boards are ones mounted behind the windscreen, and facing the driver. Each car also carries an external forward-facing camera, external rear-facing camera, sometimes a camera on the wing mirror or side of the car, and often an effect camera (such as pedals, or suspension).

awrb · 9 Apr 2010, 11:43 (Ref:2669413)

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Originally Posted by gregc

Recorded to memory card, to be pedantic about it

Also, the footage that is recorded by the spycams is nowhere near broadcast quality.

I'm confused about this. If this is the case, and it's not good enough quality for broadcast, couldn't they put a broadcast quality camera there, giving the stewards better quality footage to asses, and giving us better footage. They'd even save money on cameras.

Craner Curves · 9 Apr 2010, 12:06 (Ref:2669428)

The footage is good enough to view on a steward's computer there and then. It's a decent spec of Fujifilm compact digital camera they use for it. That's all that matters to them. It's a simple case of removing the memory card and then playing it on their device. It'd be too much bother to get the footage from the TV company on demand like that. The V8s in Australia operate a similar 'Spy In The Cab' system and they still manage to supply good onboard footage from other angles.

skells22 · 9 Apr 2010, 12:08 (Ref:2669433)

we talking about ITV not showing race 3 of the Rockingham round live on ITV4 which i am a bit angry about. Any supports race get mess about due to this ITV4 going to cricket land!

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