V8 SuperTourers in NZ - 'Car Of Tomorrow'

[FAS33]

Go the Ford!

[Biggy G]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Mpc were the only ones to test a new radiator set up, they claim it was a success but it was that cold at hamptons I think it was A premature statement.

Possibly, but the races were run in warmer weather at Hampton Downs than Manfeild.

[DX20VT]

Originally Posted by Biggy G

Now just to sort those pesky gear boxes, again, some teams having no probs, others heaps. Aparantly the calibration has a lot to do with it, gotta be spot on, if it's not, look out.

Also maybe prep work, as I know at least some of the teams are stripping and rebuilding the gearboxes every round since the first round, and replaced gears etc in them after every event,
but still a gearbox that need a rebuild and replacement parts evey time you use it to be reliable probably isn't what the teams are after.

[Biggy G]

Originally Posted by DX20VT

Also maybe prep work, as I know at least some of the teams are stripping and rebuilding the gearboxes every round since the first round, and replaced gears etc in them after every event,
but still a gearbox that need a rebuild and replacement parts evey time you use it to be reliable probably isn't what the teams are after.

No, not at all, especially when the point of the class is to not have those sorts of things going on between rounds.

Wonder what the differences are though, those that I know of that haven't had to touch them vs. those that are having to pull apart and replace things.

[DX20VT]

Originally Posted by Biggy G

No, not at all, especially when the point of the class is to not have those sorts of things going on between rounds.

Wonder what the differences are though, those that I know of that haven't had to touch them vs. those that are having to pull apart and replace things.

I bet all the teams that haven't had thiers apart for alook inside by now will be doing so after the last round.

[Biggy G]

Originally Posted by DX20VT

I bet all the teams that haven't had thiers apart for alook inside by now will be doing so after the last round.

I don't think anyone hasn't at least had them apart, that wasn't what I was trying to say, what I was saying is that people are pulling them apart, finding nothing much wrong and putting them back together.

[Intrepid]

It would be interesting to see how many failures of the gear box relate to who has opened them up and done what with them...

I cant help but think maybe, just maybe a bit of the old NZV8 mentality could come into it. Strip it down for a looksee on Monday, see what we can do to make it go better.

Does anyone know of any teams that havent touched anything? And how their gear boxes have held up...

Is temptation getting the better of some teams. If so its unfair to blame the Quaife box. If not, by all means

[BackSeat Driver]

The Rat resiging as CEO from Super Tourers.

[Goat Boy]

Hmmm, not only that but it would seem that Cherie Brown is no more either:

NEW EVENT MANAGEMENT TEAM

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V8 Supertourers Managing Director, Mark Petch announced today, that as part of an internal restructure that the company has appointed motor racing event management company, GR8 as their new event managers.

"GR8's principals Gary Lathrope and Rachael Murray, make a great team and we are delighted to have such an experienced motor sports event team on board with us, they combine an excellent understanding of both the sports side of our event and the hands on work that has to go in to making each event a success. We would also like to acknowledge and thank Cherie Brown for all her hard work, and enthusiasm in helping us grow the brand and wish her well in her future endeavours;" said Petch.

V8 Supertourers are in a high growth phase, as we count down to what will be the biggest domestic motor racing event since the glory days of the Wellington street race. "It's fitting that we return to the ancestral home of New Zealand endurance racing, Pukekohe, welcoming a number of prominent overseas drivers to that event, on the weekend of the 27/28th of October next. The racing will be both fast and furious, as will the entertainment line up we have in place for the Saturday evening concert." said Petch.

Tickets will go on sale for the Pukekohe 500 at the end of June.

Pity for Cherie, she is a good person. I won't speculate as to what went on there.

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by BackSeat Driver

The Rat resiging as CEO from Super Tourers.

Story Here

[NZSTfan]

oh thats not good. Hope it doesn't affect the series too much. I hope things are all ok in the ST camp??

[NZSTfan]

After doing some further reading i can now see that these changes are in no way bad for the series, its just a simple re-shuffle which is what most businesses are doing right now. Good on the ST guys for being so up front, like they normally are.

Bring on the enduros

[M3 Racing]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

Mpc were the only ones to test a new radiator set up, they claim it was a success but it was that cold at hamptons I think it was A premature statement.

Hi all. The radiators in the MPC cars were designed, tested and supplied by M3 Racing as Paul Manuell is the NZ PWR agent. We ran all three of our cars with them as well as the MPC cars. There are others with them ready to fit but they ran out of time pre-Hampton.
We haven't heard how the new V8ST supplied radiators got on during the weekend but know that our PWR radiator/oil cooler combo worked great for us and MPC certainly weren't complaining!

Kerry Holland

[NZSTfan]

Thats great news M3 Racing. Hopefully thats the 'overheating' monkey off the V8ST backs

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Good on the ST guys for being so up front, like they normally are.

if that is genuinely the case, NZSTFan, then where is the press release regarding the gearbox issues???

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by M3 Racing

Hi all. The radiators in the MPC cars were designed, tested and supplied by M3 Racing as Paul Manuell is the NZ PWR agent. We ran all three of our cars with them as well as the MPC cars. There are others with them ready to fit but they ran out of time pre-Hampton.
We haven't heard how the new V8ST supplied radiators got on during the weekend but know that our PWR radiator/oil cooler combo worked great for us and MPC certainly weren't complaining!

Kerry Holland

When are you testing the hollinger?

[adbutler]

this was just on speedstuff:
http://www.speedstuff.co.nz/v8supert...rbox-solution/

[Goat Boy]

Originally Posted by adbutler

this was just on speedstuff:
http://www.speedstuff.co.nz/v8supert...rbox-solution/

Yeah I guess that is one of the problems of a large capacity, you get big torque no matter what your horsepower. Power is a function of torque and revs anyway but you get more torque earlier with a long stroke although less power as max. revs won't be as high.

[NZSTfan]

lets hope this fixes the problem i.e the change of steel for internal components. I think with the quaife being a true sequential as opposed to the box used in the current supercar is a significant differentiator for the ST class. Although in saying that, if i could make one change, it would be to have longer gearsticks much like what we see in supercars. It just makes the whole in-car visual so much more appealing.

On another note, i remember when the series first got off the ground and it was said that everything was controlled right down to the gearknob. But i noticed on some youtube footage of Gaunts car that his gearknob is black, not white, and does indeed look slightly diffferent to the 'older' cars. Just an observation, and no doubt a pointless one

[Chappelli]

Interesting that MP suggests that V8SC teams are servicing their Hollingers every second round or in some cases mid-meeting...
Kind of feels like the idea of a full season bulletproof box is a tougher creature to capture than first thought.. Also gives a fairly good understanding of why you’d try something different to the Hollinger.

Given that Quaife themselves say they worked closely with V8ST, you’d think they’re pretty keen to make sure their product is fit for purpose (and the fact that they’re willing to make modifications is probably evidence of that).

[Blackpearl]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

lets hope this fixes the problem i.e the change of steel for internal components. I think with the quaife being a true sequential as opposed to the box used in the current supercar is a significant differentiator for the ST class. Although in saying that, if i could make one change, it would be to have longer gearsticks much like what we see in supercars. It just makes the whole in-car visual so much more appealing.

On another note, i remember when the series first got off the ground and it was said that everything was controlled right down to the gearknob. But i noticed on some youtube footage of Gaunts car that his gearknob is black, not white, and does indeed look slightly diffferent to the 'older' cars. Just an observation, and no doubt a pointless one

The current box in super cars is a true sequential.

I agree about all the anodizing etc that has gone on to make stuff look pretty, control part fit it.

[NZSTfan]

Originally Posted by Blackpearl

The current box in super cars is a true sequential.

I agree about all the anodizing etc that has gone on to make stuff look pretty, control part fit it.

Are you sure its a true sequential? i thought it was a converted H-pattern.

I do realise however that the COTF uses a true sequential

[smokin'joe]

Originally Posted by NZSTfan

Are you sure its a true sequential? i thought it was a converted H-pattern.

I do realise however that the COTF uses a true sequential

posted 6th June on HD thread:

Originally Posted by Fairlane GTA

The current Holinger RD6S is a sequential box, there may have been some confusion with the older H6S sequential conversion.

[NZSTfan]

Ok fair enough, thanks for the clarification Joe

[FAS33]

are the NZST faster then V8's SC's? , if not, when..... would like to see them both race