[Official] Fantasy F1 2009 - China

[ralf fan]

Well an interesting round with scores ranging from all over. The winners are "Brains and Brawn" GP with a fantastic score of 41 points. They are also the new championship leaders crossing 90 points after 3 rounds. Congrats to them.

Some other good scores as well. I will try to post an updated version of my Drivers and Team table sometime today or tomorrow. Right now you lot should be pleased that I decided to forgo the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half of the FA cup semi to post these results.

Pos.	Entrant	Rd.1	Rd.2	Rd.3	Total points
1	Brains and Brawn Racing	29	23	41	93
2	Rocket PowerGP	32	28	31	91
3	Fyffes GP	31	37	20	88
4	Edwardes Racing	25	19	38	82
5	Team Catunda	20	22	28	70
6	Banjo Boy racing	15	29	24	68
7	Gold Medal Racing	23	24	20	67
8	NomNomNom	23	14	29	66
9	Krankschaft	19	16	28	63
10	Polar Bear Racing	11	22	30	63
11	Wannab Motorsport	32	15	16	63
12	Duke Grand Prix Engineering	21	30	8	59
13	Saru Racing Team	7	27	23	57
14	Tyrell	28	11	16	55
15	WearenotallowedtouseF1inourteamname F1	18	22	15	55
16	Polished Baguette F1 team	19	9	25	53
17	Camel Toe Racing	10	24	17	51
18	Toro Kimber	29	15	7	51
19	Ralf Fan GPE	15	18	15	48
20	CragsBag	11	20	16	47
21	Force Ireland	15	20	11	46
22	Magic Sealion Racing	14	10	21	45
23	Racing for Sealand	10	27	8	45
24	Opposite Lock Racing	27	11	6	44
25	Best Caterers in town	-	24	19	43
26	SuperChilliF1	3	24	16	43
27	Wigwam Warriors	18	12	11	41
28	Mattteam	18	14	8	40
29	Rolling Chicane Racing	12	16	11	39
30	Duke Nukes	9	13	16	38
31	MHM	5	10	23	38
32	Team la cucarach	7	23	8	38
33	EBXR8 motorsport	-	22	14	36
34	Team Tiger Racing	24	13	-2	35
35	Stab In the Dark Global Racing Team	3	19	10	32
36	Wooden Spoon Racing	8	1	23	32
37	Vulkan Racing	15	12	4	31
38	Maccafans Maulers	-3	21	10	28
39	RG Racing	-11	7	30	26
40	PhxSuns Racing	-	12	13	25
41	Notso Swift's team (nameless)	-2	10	16	24
42	Born Racers	-	-	18	18
43	Ingsy F1	-5	6	16	17
44	Penguin Motorsports	-9	8	17	16
45	TS Racing	22	-6	-1	15
46	SheepBotherers	-6	-2	20	12
47	B.O.R.I.N.G	-3	0	12	9
48	SBF Racing International	-2	2	9	9
49	AusF1	-5	12	-3	4
50	Force Midlands	-5	-5	13	3
51	Racing for Ireland	-14	10	3	-1

[Ralf's Girl]

30 points. I knew my faith in Heikki would pay off...now I just need Piquet to sort it out...

[wannab-aracer]

Originally Posted by Ralf's Girl

...now I just need Piquet to sort it out...

Good luck with that

[craigd]

Yeah Piquet is my ruin too. And BMW are particularly dismal also. So it's just left for Button to drag my into the midfield!

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by ralf fan

Right now you lot should be pleased that I decided to forgo the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half of the FA cup semi to post these results.

Thanks for the quick update.

Though I'm still a bit confused why you havn't bothered to fix the issues brought up weeks ago. Eg

1) Brains and Brawn Racing consisting of both BGP and Jenson Button (illegal team no?)

2) Saru Racing Team total cost value = 110

3) Robbes team missing

4) Last round my team only getting 24points when it should have gotten 27
(which suggests you have calculation errors in your spreadsheet).

[ralf fan]

1. They fixed their entry and it is valid. RBR and Button is not the same team

2. No-one brought this up.

3. I forgot and he didn't remind me.

4. I thought we agreed that you messed up your calculations and judging by the values you have you did, For eg you classified Kubica and Vettel as finishers as per the f1.com website for the Australian GP even though they didn't

Originally Posted by stedevil

Yupp, I just cut'n'pasted the results from http://www.formula1.com/results/seas...3/results.html
and apparently they don't write retired for all DNFs. So I need to manually makr the DNFs that are still classifed as "finished in position" (which I didnt pay attention to since it didnt affect "my" team).

I'm sorry if I can't pick up on every small mistake with entries and scoring but there is only so much combing over I can do. If you see something someone needs to tell me and I usually do this at the end of the race weekend so even if you tell me something at the start of the week I am more than likely to forget. PMs reminders are the best. Robbe your entry has been added to the spreadsheet now. Your total is 1 point after 3 rounds which will be indicated after the next round.

Cheers
RF

[Born Racer]

Bernie just phoned me and my team has been hit with a colossal fine for missing the first two races.

I will endeavour to finish the season, but I've already blown my entire budget on the car and drivers, so I don't know whether I'll be able to afford it.

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by ralf fan

1. They fixed their entry and it is valid. RBR and Button is not the same team

Ok thanks, just didnt appear in any thread which made it a bit confusing.

2. No-one brought this up.

Team owner actually did it himself in the team thread and I mentioned it as well.

3. I forgot and he didn't remind me.

Same as above. Remember to check your own threads

4. I thought we agreed that you messed up your calculations and judging by the values you have you did, For eg you classified Kubica and Vettel as finishers as per the f1.com website for the Australian GP even though they didn't

Yes, but as I wrote, those mistakes did not affect my teams scoring at all and I presented my manual calculations for how I got 27 points as well.

Anyway, again
Sutil (3 + 2) = 5
Bourdais (3 + 5) = 8
BGP (8 + 4 + 1 + 1) = 14
Total 27

I'm sorry if I can't pick up on every small mistake with entries and scoring but there is only so much combing over I can do.

I understand. Though the lists I presented last were all corrected for that initial mistake, and they still differ quite much from your numbers. Was offering them to help you out with something to check against once you corrected the mistake that gave me 24 instead of 27 points. Of course if our points still dont match up after you fix that error one or both of us still have bugs :P

[Burnsie]

It's only a bit of fun!!

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by Burnsie

It's only a bit of fun!!

You mean it's generally unappreciated that I try to help out by finding errors?

Ill shut up from now on then.

[Burnsie]

Originally Posted by stedevil

You mean it's generally unappreciated that I try to help out by finding errors?

No of course not. I'm sorry if you took my comment to mean that you weren't appreciated, but that's definitely not what I meant. I just perceived (wrongly it seems) that by making a comment such as "remember to check your own threads" and by continuing to object to RF's scoring that you were perhaps taking this game a little too seriously.

Sorry again if I got the wrong end of the stick there

[Teretonga]

I have Red Bull, Glock and Nakajima so how does that make 11 points?

Red Bull 1st and Pole so 8+1 = 9 (Is second another 6 points?)
Glock in the points 5 and 7 places forward = 12 points
Nakajima finishes 18 so 3 places back and a DNF -6?

Now surely that makes 15, not 11
And do I get anything for Red Bulls second?

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by Teretonga

I have Red Bull, Glock and Nakajima so how does that make 11 points?

Red Bull 1st and Pole so 8+1 = 9 (Is second another 6 points?)
Glock in the points 5 and 7 places forward = 12 points
Nakajima finishes 18 so 3 places back and a DNF -6?

Now surely that makes 15, not 11
And do I get anything for Red Bulls second?

AFAICT you should get 15 for RBR, 17 for Glock (you forgot his 5 places drop, rules say grid position not quali result) and Nakajima -4 (due to glocks grid drop and DNF for driver = 0). So total of 28 according to my spreadsheet. But let the King verify that before you open the champaign to celebrate PS Though I do have your team pegged down for Ferrari, not RBR, as the team. So that total would be 12 in total this round.

[Super Hans]

This is becoming more like the real F1 with every post.

I wish to protest the diffuser designs of Brains and Brawn Racing, Rocket Power, Fyffes GP, Edwardes Racing, Team Catunda and Banjo Boy racing.

[ralf fan]

Your protest application has been received. Unfortunately you have failed to offer any "sweetners" so your protest has been thrown out.

[ralf fan]

Originally Posted by Teretonga

I have Red Bull, Glock and Nakajima so how does that make 11 points?

Red Bull 1st and Pole so 8+1 = 9 (Is second another 6 points?)
Glock in the points 5 and 7 places forward = 12 points
Nakajima finishes 18 so 3 places back and a DNF -6?

Now surely that makes 15, not 11
And do I get anything for Red Bulls second?

You have Ferrari as your chassis not Red Bull. Check your entry.

Ferrari = -1
Glock = 17
Nakajima = -4

Your total should be 12 points.

I F***** up your entry and had you down as Rosberg instead of Nakajima. Unfortunately for you this means you have even less points overall than you have now.

Your scores are now amended:

Australian GP = 7
Malaysian GP = 13
Chinese GP = 12
Total = 32 points

[ralf fan]

Also SARU F1 decided to pull out since they couldn't get the team of their choice.

[Knowlesy]

Originally Posted by stedevil

You mean it's generally unappreciated that I try to help out by finding errors?

Ill shut up from now on then.

Indeed, help is appreciated, but you are being very forceful and aggressive. We should all remember who is running this.

Personally, I never check if my own scores are accurate let alone others!

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Indeed, help is appreciated, but you are being very forceful and aggressive.

Well, that is probably the frustration shining through from pointing out errors and repeatedly being ignored.

We should all remember who is running this.

Personally, I never check if my own scores are accurate let alone others!

In last years BTCC league the guy running it went AWOL for half the season. It's perfectly understandable, RL is more important than a for fun game on a forum.

So noticing some delays in updating I thought Id just make a quick spreadsheet calculating my own score, instead of just nagging on the the guy running this thing. By doing that I however noticed several errors in the teams & drivers scores already posted by ralf fan and and thus went on to add all players as well in the thought that it would help and save ralf fan time with fixing those errors.

Unfortunately it seems to have been received in a prestigious way instead of as a helping hand.

[Born Racer]

I can't be arsed to read what it is you're referring to, but saying stuff like 'can't be bothered' is mean to someone who is doing all these boring calculations (that certainly isn't the 'Fun' element listed in this 'Predictions Contest & Fun' forum) for no pay and to keep the thing going.

I for instance didn't volunteer to run it because I realised I wouldn't easily be able to allocate the amount of time required to do it. I'm sure ralf fan is busy with his life as well, therefore it's commendable that he is giving up whatever free time he has to do it.

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by Born Racer

I can't be arsed to read what it is you're referring to, but saying stuff like 'can't be bothered' is mean to someone who is doing all these boring calculations (that certainly isn't the 'Fun' element listed in this 'Predictions Contest & Fun' forum) for no pay and to keep the thing going.

I did the same calculations, under the same conditions, only to help out. For that I get ignored and as bonus I'm getting flak from people like you who critise while openly admitting not even knowing or bothering to find out about the subject. Since it's now obvious that offering a hand in this section of the forum is rewarded by sticks and stones will refrain from posting more here.

Ralf fan, if you would be interested in "comparing notes" or a helping hand, do let me know and I'll communicate with you via PMs instead.

To everybody, have fun.

[Super Hans]

I don't know whether or not it is intentional, but your tone often appears very patronising, which may be why you seem to be rubbing people up the wrong way.

[ralf fan]

This is exactly like real Formula 1 in here.

[Born Racer]

It was the 'you haven't bothered to' that I thought was a bit uncalled for.

Anyway, I still can't be arsed, lol.

Fair play for helping out though.

[wannab-aracer]

I would just like to say thank you to ralf fan for running the league.

I for one can't be bothered to even work out my own scores so I'm sure it's quite an effort to do them all!

If there are ever any mistakes I can understand and does it really bother me ?

I'm sure your efforts are appriciated stedevil, maybe just the way in which they are delivered could be questioned.

Unless I missed the £10,000 1st prize, this is just a bit of fun is'nt it ?

If there is a cash incentive - ralf fan - PULL YOUR FINGER OUT