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Old 14 Apr 2012, 00:08 (Ref:3058672)   #101
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 00:39 (Ref:3058682)   #102
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Looks like Henzler and his Falken tires set the fastest lap in practice. Somebody is going to praying for rain.
I would be interested in seeing Falken win overallon a rainy day ...
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 00:42 (Ref:3058685)   #103
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What are they abandoning quali for? Why not run all classes and then set the grid by class, but according to their times?
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 00:49 (Ref:3058686)   #104
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What are they abandoning quali for? Why not run all classes and then set the grid by class, but according to their times?
Same reason they don't have a title sponsor or a good media package.... incompetence and lack of caring about fans.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 00:49 (Ref:3058687)   #105
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What are they abandoning quali for? Why not run all classes and then set the grid by class, but according to their times?
Wholeheartedly agree - genuinely don't see ALMS covering themselves in glory today.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 00:54 (Ref:3058689)   #106
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Wholeheartedly agree - genuinely don't see ALMS covering themselves in glory today.
On the broadcast they said it was abandoned because it was declared a dry session and they can't change it into a wet one halfway through. So they stopped it for bureaucratic reasons

...and someone on ESPN3 hasn't realized that their mic is still open
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 02:42 (Ref:3058714)   #107
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There isn't a good solution here.

If you do the time breakdown by class, the guys in the lower classes will harp on the FACT that they turned faster times, and demand to know why they're being put to the back anyway.

And it's not like the fans are going to get a better show. If they set things by class, the GT, LMPC, LMP2, and LMP1 runners don't really have a reason to go out and risk their cars and drivers in those conditions, because they'll be starting up front anyway. If you set things based on overall times, the guys still wouldn't have gone out, because it was getting wetter, so they were guaranteed to set slower times than the GTCs.

And if several of the cars incurred real damage by being told that they had to go out and qualify in those worsening conditions, that could reduce the grid and punish the fans on race day with a smaller field.

Also, with this many classes, I wouldn't want a hugely mixed up starting grid on a street circuit. I would probably be relatively okay with it, if it was just two classes, and they were both either GTs or both LMPs. With the speed differentials in play with the classes we have though, I just don't want that much potential for desperate divebomb maneuvers right off the bat, from LMP drivers who are determined to lose as little time as possible getting to the front.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 03:20 (Ref:3058728)   #108
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With the cancellation of qualifying, it looks Black Swan got a lucky break, as they wouldn't have made qualifying anyway.

What ****es me off is the shuffling of the GTC grid. It was an enjoyable qualifying, no way hampered by the weather. This shuffling completely diminishes the racing we got to see during their session.

I see the starting grid is still not set, so hopefully the ALMS will get their heads together and start the GTC field as they qualified.

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Old 14 Apr 2012, 03:23 (Ref:3058729)   #109
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There isn't a good solution here.

If you do the time breakdown by class, the guys in the lower classes will harp on the FACT that they turned faster times, and demand to know why they're being put to the back anyway.

And it's not like the fans are going to get a better show. If they set things by class, the GT, LMPC, LMP2, and LMP1 runners don't really have a reason to go out and risk their cars and drivers in those conditions, because they'll be starting up front anyway. If you set things based on overall times, the guys still wouldn't have gone out, because it was getting wetter, so they were guaranteed to set slower times than the GTCs.

And if several of the cars incurred real damage by being told that they had to go out and qualify in those worsening conditions, that could reduce the grid and punish the fans on race day with a smaller field.

Also, with this many classes, I wouldn't want a hugely mixed up starting grid on a street circuit. I would probably be relatively okay with it, if it was just two classes, and they were both either GTs or both LMPs. With the speed differentials in play with the classes we have though, I just don't want that much potential for desperate divebomb maneuvers right off the bat, from LMP drivers who are determined to lose as little time as possible getting to the front.
I actually did not have any problems with doing this way especially on a street circuit. We don't need to see anything torn up that will not be able to make the grid at Laguna. We should still have a really good race tomorrow and I am really looking forward to that.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 08:07 (Ref:3058786)   #110
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Glad I didn't try to stay up and watch qualifying!

Good luck to all the teams today. Talk about a voyage into the unknown.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 15:29 (Ref:3058978)   #112
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That's a kick in the groin for Valiante, Cumming and the rest of the #11 team, but not sure if there was another sensible thing to do for the starting grid as a whole. Guess they could've let GTC stand and put them behind everyone else, but whatever. At least they made it the same for everyone.

To the race itself; mostly green street circuit, very little dry track time and a somewhat jumbled grid...going to be an interesting first half hour, to say the least.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 16:43 (Ref:3059017)   #113
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Looking forward to this tonight. Can someone much more intelligent than me tell me what time this starts for either UK/Europe?

Lotus looks great!
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 18:03 (Ref:3059059)   #114
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Looking forward to this tonight. Can someone much more intelligent than me tell me what time this starts for either UK/Europe?

Lotus looks great!
It's at 1930 EDT in the states... so 0030 (UK) or 0130 (Cont Europe) very early Sunday morning
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 18:23 (Ref:3059071)   #115
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It's at 1930 EDT in the states... so 0030 (UK) or 0130 (Cont Europe) very early Sunday morning
Thanks that was what I was thinking. The ALMS website had their countdown clock completely wrong but have sorted it out now.

I'll watch the race tomorrow then!
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Thanks that was what I was thinking. The ALMS website had their countdown clock completely wrong but have sorted it out now.

I'll watch the race tomorrow then!
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 23:23 (Ref:3059181)   #117
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Thanks that was what I was thinking. The ALMS website had their countdown clock completely wrong but have sorted it out now.
I saw that...you think that they could at least get that right...

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Old 14 Apr 2012, 23:49 (Ref:3059192)   #118
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 23:55 (Ref:3059197)   #119
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The Dyson car looks very nice.

Muscle Milk would look better as a coupe.
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Old 14 Apr 2012, 23:59 (Ref:3059199)   #120
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The lack of dry running in the practice sessions doesn't help and there's probably quite a few drivers still learning the track but there has certainly been a lot of silly errors early on.
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Old 15 Apr 2012, 00:00 (Ref:3059200)   #121
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I might have to quit and watch this later. There have been so many commercial breaks and in-program adverts in this first half an hour that I've hardly seen any action and can't get with the flow.
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Old 15 Apr 2012, 00:12 (Ref:3059205)   #122
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I love that cam showing Hindy and Shaw in the commentary booth, you can see them getting frustrated with the amount of commercial breaks aswell.
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Old 15 Apr 2012, 00:23 (Ref:3059208)   #123
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what an ugly coverage... they have some good battles, especially in GT but the amount of commercials and other bs is killing the show
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Old 15 Apr 2012, 00:33 (Ref:3059210)   #124
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Is Van Overbeek allowed to do the entire race? (i know the anwser but...). They need this.
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Reason for caution?
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