2012 Dodge Viper GT2/GTE

pederb · 20 Sep 2011, 18:39 (Ref:2958678)

According to Murphy:
Rumors from "inside the program" of a factory Viper ALMS entry in GT for 2012.

Let's cross our fingers

Cheers

pederb · 20 Sep 2011, 18:40 (Ref:2958679)

Old news I noticed, but I think this needs it own thread.

Cheers

Simmi · 20 Sep 2011, 18:45 (Ref:2958685)

Yeah it does deserve it's own thread if it's legit. Just seen a Graham (DSC) tweet about the imminent announcement of a GTE programme. Could be this? If so, BRILLIANT.

Deleted · 20 Sep 2011, 18:48 (Ref:2958687)

It was about time.

As I said earlier, if this goes ahead it's probably the best possible thing that could happen to ALMS... screw prototypes, I've missed the epic Corvette-Viper battles.

JAG · 20 Sep 2011, 19:25 (Ref:2958708)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah it does deserve it's own thread if it's legit. Just seen a Graham (DSC) tweet about the imminent announcement of a GTE programme. Could be this? If so, BRILLIANT.

Hashtag is ILMC.

The Badger · 20 Sep 2011, 19:34 (Ref:2958714)

Oh , its a Murphy rumour ..... pinch of salt .

Victor_RO · 20 Sep 2011, 19:35 (Ref:2958715)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah it does deserve it's own thread if it's legit. Just seen a Graham (DSC) tweet about the imminent announcement of a GTE programme. Could be this? If so, BRILLIANT.

Might also be a return on the cards of an ex-Matech Ford GT GTE project, see the other thread.

EDIT: Scratch that, sorry, Graham's tweet refers to another unannounced programme now that I read it, so it might be this.

pitviper · 20 Sep 2011, 19:37 (Ref:2958716)

Unfortunately, the GTE program GG is talking about doesn't look to be the Viper. Hopefully more on that soon though... :-P

pit

Fogelhund · 20 Sep 2011, 19:49 (Ref:2958722)

Take everything with a pinch of salt, until it arrives on the track... well except for major manufacturers, such as Lexus... oops...

Heck, there are issues with this story, and that is no criticism of Murphy, who just reported what he'd heard. An 8.0l V10 simply doesn't meet the current ACO rules. So will the rules be changed, or is IMSA going in it's own direction?

I do hope this story has legs.

Pandamasque · 20 Sep 2011, 20:25 (Ref:2958740)

Who knows what's under the hood of the gen 3 Viper anyways?

Purist · 20 Sep 2011, 21:10 (Ref:2958765)

I'd think it's still the monster V10, as that is what is going into the new Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale as well.

MitchZ06 · 20 Sep 2011, 21:56 (Ref:2958787)

Surely that big mill can be reduced in capacity to 5.5l no?

Marcel ten Caat · 20 Sep 2011, 22:15 (Ref:2958798)

Graham's tweet was certainly not about the Lambda Ford GT / E. ;-)

AGD · 20 Sep 2011, 22:17 (Ref:2958800)

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Badger

Oh , its a Murphy rumour ..... pinch of salt .

Yeah, that definitely makes it a bit of a buzzkill after contemplating the initial rumor. Hopefully it will happen though. I think the old GTS Vipers brought a lot of excitement to the ALMS back in the day and a return of serious Corvette vs. Viper battles could attract some attention.

Any chance that someone like Penske could run the program if it is a factory deal? 2012 seems too soon, but maybe work has been going on behind the scenes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Who knows what's under the hood of the gen 3 Viper anyways?

Wasn't there a rumor that the new Viper would have a V8 at least as an option?

AGD · 20 Sep 2011, 22:22 (Ref:2958805)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah it does deserve it's own thread if it's legit. Just seen a Graham (DSC) tweet about the imminent announcement of a GTE programme. Could be this? If so, BRILLIANT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stranger

Graham's tweet was certainly not about the Lambda Ford GT / E. ;-)

There have been rumors have Larbre expanding to GTE-Pro with the Corvettes. Maybe that is the rumor? Who knows. The Larbre rumor coming true would be exciting, but I think people are looking for something even more exciting like a new car obviously.

Pandamasque · 21 Sep 2011, 02:37 (Ref:2958881)

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Originally Posted by Purist

I'd think it's still the monster V10, as that is what is going into the new Alfa Romeo TZ3 Stradale as well.

That Alfa seems to be just a design exercise by Zagato based on the current SRT 10 ACR. The interior is almost identical, and even I could have done a better job at gluing the Alfa Romeo badge onto the Viper's truck-like steering wheel

Zagato is now a British-owned design firm, it really has nothing to do with Fiat-Chrysler, so I doubt Chrysler would share the latest top-secret tech with outsiders so that they could build a few ulra-expensive examples of a retro-car for collectors.

Earlier this year I've heard a lot of rumors about the next Viper being based on the 8C Competizione. That not necessarily mean it must have its Ferrari V8, but who knows...

Mal · 21 Sep 2011, 07:39 (Ref:2958935)

With the modern world of shared platforms could there be a dual programme with the next generation Viper in ALMS and a shared platform Alfa or perhaps Maserati in WEC - they are all under the same roof now after all!

pederb · 21 Sep 2011, 17:11 (Ref:2959160)

http://www.topspeed.coml

Looks like it could be a V8 this time

JHamilton · 21 Sep 2011, 17:35 (Ref:2959172)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Who knows what's under the hood of the gen 3 Viper anyways?

Most car rags seem to believe that it is a revision of the existing V10.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AGD

Wasn't there a rumor that the new Viper would have a V8 at least as an option?

There is still a rumor around that the car will also be available with a 6.4L Hemi with FI. Seems unlikely to me as I don't know why there would be two engine options in such a small volume car. Plus, there is not much time until this thing is supposed to debut.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Surely that big mill can be reduced in capacity to 5.5l no?

Yeah, if you lop it in half.

The current engine regs are rubbish.

The Badger · 21 Sep 2011, 17:40 (Ref:2959174)

I remember seeing the first Viper attempt at Le Mans , the dayglo yellow and orange cars , then the 2 Canaska Southwind and Oreca GT1 examples (Vic Lee would have looked more at home with a hamburger clenched in his fist that a steering wheel) and every other that raced there , saw it at Sebring in 2003 . Very pleasing machine , and a sad Le Mans when the car was at last retired . Be brilliant to see it back again ..... everyone loved it .

That American Viper team (Tom Weikhart) must surly be the best Viper mechanics about for thousands of miles , they musta rebuilt that car 7001 times , it even went swimming if I remember correctly ..... Bet ol'Hugh de Chaunac loved them !!!

Sincerly hope this is no rumour , but fact .

I wonder who could be in the running to race it ?

Dead-Eye · 21 Sep 2011, 17:55 (Ref:2959186)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Yeah, if you lop it in half.

The current engine regs are rubbish.

To get a GT1 Viper below the 6.2l maximum in VLN and the Nürburgring 24h, Zakspeed built an engine that used the stock block, but with the last two cylinders disconnected.

Victor_RO · 21 Sep 2011, 18:05 (Ref:2959188)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

To get a GT1 Viper below the 6.2l maximum in VLN and the Nürburgring 24h, Zakspeed built an engine that used the stock block, but with the last two cylinders disconnected.

And eventually got rid of it altogether for the 2008 race and slotted in a V8 that was under the maximum capacity limit.

TF110 · 21 Sep 2011, 18:53 (Ref:2959205)

Lexus LFA's AND Dodge Viper's in GTE? Is this reality?

Deleted · 21 Sep 2011, 19:02 (Ref:2959210)

Who said anything about LFAs coming to GT2?

Canada ALMS fan · 21 Sep 2011, 19:03 (Ref:2959213)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simmi

Yeah it does deserve it's own thread if it's legit. Just seen a Graham (DSC) tweet about the imminent announcement of a GTE programme. Could be this? If so, BRILLIANT.

Is he referring to ALMS or otherwise? If so, this could be a separate rumour from the Viper one.

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