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Old 26 Nov 2003, 10:45 (Ref:1538413)   #51
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Jeremy.

Thank you very much.

David McKinney has reported BT35-35 for sale in Gloucestshire in early 1990's , but no previous history .

So that should put another one to bed for a while, although I wonder where it is now.

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Old 26 Nov 2003, 17:34 (Ref:1538414)   #52
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I belive thet BT35-35 was reported with John Harper in 92/93 competing (Ref. reports in Historic racing magazine/David McKinney)in the Euro F2 historic series as either an F2 or FA car.
Other BT35's are still competing in the F2 Euro series, not sure which chassis numbers.
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Old 26 Nov 2003, 18:22 (Ref:1538415)   #53
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I also found another BT35 on the Brian Wilson brabham owner's website. Trevor Needham has BT35-26 for sale in the UK last year.
Also, another BT35 for sale on same brabham website, but no chassis no.Will try to find out some info.
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Old 15 Dec 2003, 23:25 (Ref:1538430)   #54
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Finnaly contacted Nick Overall and confirmed that BT35-28 is with Peter Shaw in UK. Also, BT35-? (ex Salisbury/Gerrad)is still with Nick Buttress, UK. Nick is looking for the chassis number.
Also, confirmed that Nick Overall raced BT36-#10 in the UK J-Brands F/Libre series for 75 season.
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Old 15 Jan 2004, 21:42 (Ref:1538474)   #55
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BT35-5 was still in France a few years ago, fitted with a wrong one litre Cosworth engine and non original nosecone, outboard rear brakes and wobbly wheels. Don't know current whereabouts.

BT35-6 belonged to Keith Norman, then was sold to Rob Haze in the Netherlands, then bought back by Norman.

BT35-9 with Peter Watts in 1998.

BT35-22 Martin Birrane in 1991, rebuilt as an F2 with FVA.
For what it is worth, FIA papers say:
Supplied new to Italy, F3 races, Fossati.
Siebenthal, Switzerland 1987.
UK 1989.
Peter Watts 1990.
Martin Birrane 1991.
Then sold/p-exed as a rolling chassis: Steve Pontin-Warltier.
Sold to Steve Worrad in 2000.
Confusing is that I was advised that BT35-22 was imported back to the UK from Switzerland in 1999 which does not match the above. 2 cars ?

BT35-26 was with Treveor Needham. If I remember well the car came from Sweden, but don't quote me on this.
BT35-26 advertised for sale in the USA recently. Same car ?

BT35-28 my notes say car was driven at Spa by Nick Read in 2000.

BT35-35 now in F3 trim.
For what it is worth, the FIA papers of the car mention the followng owners:
Mike Hawley 1971.
Bob Howling 1972.
Mike Sharott (Jamaica) 1972.
Back to UK: Peter Watts 1986 - 1987
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Old 16 Jan 2004, 00:43 (Ref:1538477)   #56
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BT35-6 is for sale
BT35-9 Now in the States?

BT35-22 I have nothing on so its European travels are interesting indeed!!

I thought my old friend Trevor Needham had sold BT35-26, certainly he had it advertised on the Brabham page http://www.nvo.com/brabhams/carsforsalewanted/ in December 2000. So I imagine it could well have gone to the States.
Does he still race in historics?

phdm it would be useful to identify Sepps’ car wouldn’t it? I had not appreciated that it was to 36 spec. Very interesting.

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Old 16 Jan 2004, 07:45 (Ref:1538478)   #57
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BT35-6 see www.qv500.com/brabham.htm

Trevor Needham now resides in France. Read he recently drove a G4.

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Old 16 Jan 2004, 08:00 (Ref:1538479)   #58
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phdm. Thank you very much and wellcome.
BT35-5 , would be the car that was on www.carclassic. about a year or more ago , that had the front wings bonded into the nose and at least one set of wheels old style wobblies.Also had incorrect front radiator / oil cooler set up.

BT35-6 , both David McKinney and I were correct , as it was Keith Norman's , went to Rob Haze in the Netherlands and then back to Keith Norman , who had it when I saw it at the Autosport show a few years ago, but David's last report was in Holland. Problem solved.

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Old 16 Jan 2004, 21:51 (Ref:1538482)   #59
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Trevor Needham now resides in France. Read he recently drove a G4.
Thanks for the info, explains why I couldn't get him at his old address!

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Old 17 Jan 2004, 02:55 (Ref:1538485)   #60
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At Trois Rivieres , 1977 , John Gloviak in Brabham - Hart Ford-BDA BT35. Bryan.

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Old 20 Jan 2004, 12:59 (Ref:1538488)   #61
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Further to Bryan's brief note about Brabhams at Trois Rivieres in 77 here is the list I have of Brabhams in Canadian and SCCA races 1972 - 76. This is very incomplete for SCCA and 72-74 in Canada

1972

Bill Eagles BT35
Al Justason BT35

1973

Bertil Roos BT35 [Opert] then a new BT40 [Opert]
Ric Forest BT35 probably from new, retained 1974

1974
Canada
Hugh Cree BT35

SCCA
Bill Cooper BT35
Joe Freeman BT35 retained 75
Dorsey Schroeder BT35

1975
Canada
Fred Beyer BT35

Anybody able to fit any of those into a pattern or offer connections?!!

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Old 23 Jan 2004, 21:05 (Ref:1538504)   #62
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I see I'm pretty late in getting involved here. First a brief intro:

My name is David Irwin, I owned a restoration shop, Lime Rock Motors for 15 years in Connecticut. I've restored about 15 Brabhams, have owned several and have vintage raced since 1989. Recently moved to Virginia, bought some property where I'm putting up a small shop (3200 sq. ft.) while I work for ProtoType Technology Group restoring vintage racing BMW's owneds by BMW of N.A.

Here are some Brabham's I've had contact with:


BT35-26 Needham car TwinCam/MK8, sold to Walt Pawlick.... 2003, Walt told me he was installing a FT200. Wanted to sell or sold the car in 2003.

BT35-41 Log Book back to 1973 shows David Ralston 1973 to 1974, sold to John and Thomas Gloviak 1974 to 1982. Log book shows Formula B with Hart 1600, (2 or 4 valve?), Gloviaks were making some suspension mods, didn't finish, thank goodness, sold to Gene Frings, car just sat, sold to present owner David Irwin 2002 with BDD/FT200.

BT35-44 AM#71 64 ( CL ) Original owner Gray Mickel, 1971, F2 spec car w/ Hart TwinCam (2 or 4 Valve?), changed to FVC. Sold to Rob Turnball 1975. Sold to Fred Edwards 1985, raced Historics 1985 to 1991, restoration not complete 1998?, sold to present owner David Irwin 2001, less engine/FT200.

Hope this helps fill in some gaps for you. Keep up the good work, this info should help many in the future. David Irwin

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Old 23 Jan 2004, 23:53 (Ref:1538505)   #63
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Dave I may be a Rookie on this forum but I would like to say a Warm Welcome!

& what a sensational first post!

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Old 24 Jan 2004, 06:01 (Ref:1538506)   #64
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How very forward of me to turn David into Dave, My apologies.

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Old 24 Jan 2004, 08:03 (Ref:1538507)   #65
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Thanks for your input David
According to my notes, BT35-44 went from Gray and Agnes Mickel to Jim Cambell 1974-78 and Chris Dowson 1980 before Fred Edwards
Rob Turnbull had BT35-6, ex-Nicholas Cook, 1973-74; its subsequent history is traceable
Did Turnbull buy 44 as a replacement for 6? In which case what was the Campbell/Dowson car?
Or might the US records of 44’s UK history be suspect?
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Old 24 Jan 2004, 08:18 (Ref:1538508)   #66
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Very warm wellcome from Australia.
Thank you for your input, will help to sort out some US cars.

Regards Bryan.

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Old 24 Jan 2004, 14:39 (Ref:1538509)   #67
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Yeah, it probably is nice and warm in Australia. Cold and snowy here.

The information on BT35-44 came from Ted Walker and Fred Edwards FIA papers.

I do know of other 29,30,35's,and maybe a 36 in the US.

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Old 31 Jan 2004, 09:19 (Ref:1538514)   #68
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As we seem to be slipping down the page , and this is a no-no.

Two more cars , both with Ian Rimmer in the U.K.

BT28-32 , F3
BT35-15 , or what from the evidence to hand must surely be this number. Also an F3.

Best to list it as found in extremely original condition , appears to be ex Italian car all it's life, which from the total lack of updating etc. may have been very short, and the car just sat around until purchased buy Ian.

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Old 31 Jan 2004, 16:49 (Ref:1538515)   #69
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Re-the Jimmy Fuller BT35. I have an Antigua contact who saw it race in Guyana (against Dave Brodie Chevron) who may be able to help with info. Would current contact for J.Fuller also be of use?
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 00:42 (Ref:1538518)   #70
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A/S Oct 15th, 1970 p.15
Tony Griffiths has an ad for BT29X to full BT30 spec. for sale.
Did he drive a BT29 & a BT30 in 1970?

Annnnd…, how many Brabhams did he have please?

BT29X and BT30X2 and BT35X2, or have I made a real stuff up on my notes?


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Old 2 Feb 2004, 17:05 (Ref:1538525)   #71
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Andrew,

The BT29 and BT30 share the same engine cover. The BT29 has a fiberglass undertray (no side bulge) with the fuel cell behind the seat. The BT30 has fiberglass sidepods with fuel cells located inside. BT30 side pods are the same as BT36. Most BT35's had aluminum side tanks with fiberglass contoured ends, fore and aft.

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Old 2 Feb 2004, 20:25 (Ref:1538527)   #72
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Andrew. As I think I said in an earlier post Tony Griffiths destroyed his BT29X at Silverstone. Brabhams replaced the chassis with a BT30 one. The car still carries its BT29 Plate BT29X-37. Tony ran this car on the hills with an FVC engine.He re-placed this car with BT35X-2 that was fitted with a Repco V8 for the 72 season. I later owned this car when it had a Rover engine installed and sold it to Shaun Mooney,who had it fitted witha BDA by Simon Hadfield.
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Old 2 Feb 2004, 21:40 (Ref:1538528)   #73
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BT35-8 .

Fuel tanks ,front and rear fibreglass end pieces , but the rubber bag tanks sit inside STEEL main side tanks , which bolt up by 10/32 bolts in 12 seperate positions , two top and two bottom in the centre to a wide strap piece which is part of the vertical square section top to bottom tube, and the top and bottom at front and rear to triangular gussetts , in the corners of vertical/horizontal main chassis rails.

Strangely I was advised a long time ago , that the steel requirement , as opposed to alloy , was a requirement to meet U.S.A regs.

By the way they bolt up , the tanks would certainly add stiffness to the chassis, replacing the std. arrangement of diagonals.

Can we have any more details possible on the Guyana car please.

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Old 2 Feb 2004, 22:13 (Ref:1538529)   #74
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. I later owned this car when it had a Rover engine installed and sold it to Shaun Mooney,who had it fitted witha BDA by Simon Hadfield.
Ah! some memory cells are awakening, -thank you Ted!

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Bryan,

You are right, STEEL side tanks on BT35's, and bolted as you describe.
Thanks for the correction. David
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