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Maybe. Maybe Merc will decide to design the 2014 car around Lewis as he struggles to adapt his style to cars that require finesse to deliver results.
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The car is the unknown variable in that equation, but I think it still holds in general terms. Part of the skillset of a good driver is adaptability.
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No, but it is something that comes with experience for those capable of learning.
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So the conclusion is they're all as bad as each other.
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People are stubborn and it's hard for them to change their previously formed opinion, even when presented with new facts. For example, people still considered Raikkonen a better driver than Massa even after Massa beat him, bringing up every possible excuse in the book.
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You know, even he drives in reverse for the next 15 years. People will still refer to the 07 season to pump up Hamilton, where he beat* Alonso.
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The thing with Kimi is he's so ridiculously talented he doesn't have to work at it. If he actually applied himself the same as, say, Vettel and had the multiple win mentality he'd be challenging Schumacher for WDC wins.
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I dunno. He seems pretty fired-up to me. The punching Perez comments and car body language on those last laps don't look like an uninterested driver.
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If Raikkonen didn't deck Hamilton after the 08 Canadian GP, he won't deck anybody.
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Oh he's certainly not uninterested. On track he'll race as hard as anybody. He just doesn't bother doing all the extra graft outside race weekends.
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All Kimi needs is a decent car and he can do the rest on pure driving talent, Massa on the other hand is a more sensitive soul who probably has a much thinner skin! Back on topic though, Nico and Lewis are close enough for me to still think that all thing being equal once Lewis hits the sweet spot i.e. gets the car under him that he really likes), Nico will struggle to stay with him, but I'm not convinced Lewis will get himself into the position to do that this year and knowing how fickle F1 politics and team managers are, if Nico continues to produce the goods, Lewis may quickly find he's the 'other' driver as long as he's a Mercedes driver. |
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I meant "It's 2013. Get back in the DeLorean."
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For those of us that are Autosport subscribers, you can look at Jonathan Noble's take here on exactly what we're discussing in this thread. His evidenced based conclusion, having spoken to Rosberg, Brawn and Hamilton, is that Rosberg is unchanged from previous years, that Hamilton expected him to be a formidable team mate... and that Schumacher was actually a lot faster in 2012 than people gave him credit for.
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Hmmm, conclusive evidence there by Noble from davyboy. Conclusive evidence of one, two, or all three of the following...
1) Qualifying is a lesser indicator in which to judge drivers. 2) Rosberg was a better racing driver the Schumacher. 3) Schumacher should participate in hillclimbs. |
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