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Old 27 Jun 2013, 12:31 (Ref:3270505)   #51
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Take it from me old friend, it aint so bad......
It's not that the idea of a hotel is unattractive, more that I'd be estranged from the 20 plus fellow Le Maniacs whom I bring along and who prefer camping.

There remains something quite magical about that early-morning cup of coffee out in the fresh air, contemplating the river flowing past our campsite which a (usually) over-heated hotel room can't compete with, however comfortable the bed. The stroll over the bridge to buy the baguettes and the croissants, the ice cold beer from the fridge when you return hot and dusty (OK - not this year!) from the track, eating al fresco in evening sunshine - all mostly denied those in hotels.

It's a lot to give up just because arthritis restricts movement.
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Old 27 Jun 2013, 12:35 (Ref:3270509)   #52
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After looking through some of my photos from this year and seeing the message at the back of the pits under the massive Porsche posters marking their 16 wins...

... yeah. I'll be pulling the trigger as soon as the tickets become available.

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Old 27 Jun 2013, 18:27 (Ref:3270736)   #53
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My money's on 14th/15th...... FWIW.
The traditional rules say this is right .... but the affiliation to the FIA has thrown out the rule book as it has to avoid a clash with F1 - the announcement of the F1 calender will determine the answer unfortunately.
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Old 27 Jun 2013, 19:01 (Ref:3270755)   #54
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I'm sure you're right Mal, although it pains me greatly to have the Le Mans dates decided by Bernie's whim.......
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Old 27 Jun 2013, 20:21 (Ref:3270846)   #55
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Getting a bit of an itchy trigger finger so might try and pre-book tomorrow for a few aspects of the trip.

From a personal point of view I hope it is the 14th/15th. Fits in better with work.
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Old 27 Jun 2013, 20:33 (Ref:3270857)   #56
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If I don't do Spa 24 this year I'll be booking LM14 ASAP. Either way I'll be there next year as funds *FINALLY* allow it and what a year it will be, hopefully BMW will bring the Z4's along to play in GTE as well.
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Old 27 Jun 2013, 22:53 (Ref:3270943)   #57
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I'm sure you're right Mal, although it pains me greatly to have the Le Mans dates decided by Bernie's whim.......
More journos available etc. because they are not across the pond at the Canadian GP is probably a good thing in long-term.
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Old 27 Jun 2013, 23:14 (Ref:3270951)   #58
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It's not that the idea of a hotel is unattractive, more that I'd be estranged from the 20 plus fellow Le Maniacs whom I bring along and who prefer camping.

There remains something quite magical about that early-morning cup of coffee out in the fresh air, contemplating the river flowing past our campsite which a (usually) over-heated hotel room can't compete with, however comfortable the bed. The stroll over the bridge to buy the baguettes and the croissants, the ice cold beer from the fridge when you return hot and dusty (OK - not this year!) from the track, eating al fresco in evening sunshine - all mostly denied those in hotels.

It's a lot to give up just because arthritis restricts movement.
Pick the right hotel and I think you can go a long way towards having the sort of pleasurable experience you describe - okay you probably need to go a little bit away from central Le Mans, but within an hour there are some very good chateau style hotels which the last year or two haven't been completely sold out for the 24 hours.

PM me if you want a couple of recommendations.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 07:33 (Ref:3271049)   #59
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I'll be returning to Le Mans (after 15 years) in 2014.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 08:00 (Ref:3271058)   #60
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 14:21 (Ref:3271234)   #61
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My money's on 14th/15th...... FWIW.
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In order to preserve the historic date of the Le Mans 24 Hours, which this year celebrated its 90th edition, the date of 14/15 June 2014 has been retained to ensure that a Formula One Grand Prix is not hosted the same weekend.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 14:28 (Ref:3271236)   #62
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^ http://www.fia.com/news/world-motor-sport-council-1

Now even more clearly a shared interest to avoid a clash.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 14:37 (Ref:3271238)   #63
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Perfect, now I know what week to definitely ask off from work next year.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 14:51 (Ref:3271245)   #64
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Perfect, now I know what week to definitely ask off from work next year.
....until Bernie asks for it to be altered again
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....until Bernie asks for it to be altered again
Nah, I think this time Todt is going to tell Bernie to go and stuff himself if he tries to put a GP on that date.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 14:59 (Ref:3271248)   #66
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This year it for sure almost became a farce, as it was originally moved to avoid New Jersey GP clash, then that GP was cancelled and if the replacement GP had happened (Paul Ricard or Turkey), it might have ended up on the LM weekend anyway.
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Old 28 Jun 2013, 16:48 (Ref:3271277)   #67
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And does it really matter anyway...... I still know where I'll be.......
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Good to see them go on the offensive and set a date. This time they shouldn't budge - regardless of what happens as they can't afford to keep setting the precedent.

They should go a step further and try to box off that weekend in June for the considerable future. The announcement might have been alluding to that I can't really tell.
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Last year there was no WMSC decision about the date (at least not in the summer [July] WMSC meeting), so the original date must have been only ACO's solo announcement. So it feels like this was now made to avoid last year's farce.

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The statement released by the FIA is, of course, factually incorrect.....
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For those who are wondering "who the heck" - I have spent the last few years putting together a little bookshop in the depths of the Derbyshire peaks and my motor racing has been limited to Donington, Le Mans Classic and the Goodwood Revival for the last four years or so. So I'm somewhat out of the loop.

But if the sums add up, hopefully I'll be in a position to take on a couple more staff in the coming year and get my weekends back for a little motorsport, and the call of Virages Arnage et Mulsanne is almost impossible to bear right now.

You have no idea how complicated it is explaining the presence of Le Mans posters and a Bentley EXP 8 on the desk of an antiquarian bookshop.
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This year was my 25th but have to say for several reasons it was far from the best. I'm sure I'll be back next year. The LMP 1 lure will be too great not to, but plans will certainly be different. Hope the regulars in my party will feel the same.
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