ALMS 2012 Discussion

[KlBD]

Originally Posted by lms

will black swan use the 11/80 or the 12/80?

It was reported that Black Swan bought Level 5's old B11/80 for this year...maybe they will also apply the B12 upgrades to it though, since they already need fin/holes for post-Sebring running?

[Pandamasque]

Both Level 5's Lolas had fins.

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by Pandamasque

Both Level 5's Lolas had fins.

Yes, but no holes.

[Jonerz]

Remove the louvers and voila!

Chris

[AGD]

Originally Posted by The Badger

But , maybe they should scrap the P1 for next year . If you want P1 , go WEC . 3 cars dont make that great of a championship and would be better to have those in P2 , imo ?

I have to disagree with that. The ALMS can't have P2 as it's top class if it wants to be taken seriously. P2 is essentially LMPC in a costume and I think the fans know that or will figure it out. The RS Spyder/Acura P2 era is long in the rearview mirror. That said, two car grids are pretty pathetic even if the racing is pretty good.

Originally Posted by Dyson Mazda

055 Level 5 HPD ARX-01g
95 Level 5 HPD ARX-01g

Those should be ARX-03bs, but I think the #95 was an ARX-01g at the test.

Also, I think Dagys was not totally closing the door on a Newman/Haas entry last week, but I'm guessing the likelihood of them racing is now less likely than it is more likely. Of course, they could always run a team for someone else like for Autocon's remaining drivers.

One of Genoa's LMPCs has been sold to one of the confirmed/likely to be confirmed teams. That does not really mean much though as sometimes drivers take their cars with them and Genoa may have had multiple cars at their disposal.

[cmk]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

What of Christian Zugel?

I assume he's forsaken the ALMS in favour of his WEC programme with Greaves, no?

Originally Posted by AGD

One of Genoa's LMPCs has been sold to one of the confirmed/likely to be confirmed teams. That does not really mean much though as sometimes drivers take their cars with them and Genoa may have had multiple cars at their disposal.

'They' had 2 as far as I know - were either of them theirs though, or were both Zugel's? The latter doesn't need his anymore unless he's keeping it as a collector's item, so maybe that's the one that got sold?

[Jonerz]

Originally Posted by AGD

Also, I think Dagys was not totally closing the door on a Newman/Haas entry last week, but I'm guessing the likelihood of them racing is now less likely than it is more likely. Of course, they could always run a team for someone else like for Autocon's remaining drivers.

One of Genoa's LMPCs has been sold to one of the confirmed/likely to be confirmed teams. That does not really mean much though as sometimes drivers take their cars with them and Genoa may have had multiple cars at their disposal.

Newman/Haas apparently had an opportunity that wasn't LMP2 but it has fallen through. They want to stay in racing, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them, but I don't think they have a program together or are in the process of putting one together as we type.

Which team was the Genoa car you know of sold to?

Originally Posted by cmk

I assume he's forsaken the ALMS in favour of his WEC programme with Greaves, no?



'They' had 2 as far as I know - were either of them theirs though, or were both Zugel's? The latter doesn't need his anymore unless he's keeping it as a collector's item, so maybe that's the one that got sold?

One of the Genoa cars was apparently Zugel's. That has been sold to Michael Gausch and is the Muscle Milk car. That leaves one Genoa car unaccounted for. (I also want to know where the 2010 Gunnar Racing car is.) As far as Zugel, free weekend, big race in a series that you can be competitive in... I feel like he could make an appearance, maybe even bring Julian back. If he and Ricardo Gonzalez pony-up, the three of them could have a good ride. I don't know why I feel that way about Zugel...

Chris

[AGD]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

Which team was the Genoa car you know of sold to?

The Muscle Milk LMPC is Genoa's (Zugel?) car that raced in the ELMS last year according to this.

[Coach Ep]

Isn´t/wasn´t the other LMPC chassis that Genoa run, owned by Storholm for their London project? Have not heard anything from those guys over the winter, is their project still alive?

This could leave Genoa without a chassis, they might have bought or leased another car or will they be teaming up with someone else???

[Jonerz]

So Genoa have had four chassis in and out of their shop in two years? I'm really quite badly confused now...

Chris

[AGD]

So apparently Job has said that there could be a 2nd Lotus at the end of the year with 2 for 2013. Mowlem might be brought in for enduros. Also, there will be a GTC car from Job as well supposedly.

[Duff_44]

A little research here:

ORECA FLM09 #15
2009 - DAMS (Spa LMS)
2010 - Genoa Racing (ALMS)
2011 - Genoa Racing (ALMS)
2012 - none listed yet

ORECA FLM09 #19
2010 - Green Earth Team Gunnar (ALMS)
2011 - Genoa Racing (Sebring winter test & Sebring, then LMS)
2012 - Muscle Milk Team Pickett (Sebring winter test)

Records may be incomplete
http://www.racingsportscars.com/chas...to/FLM-15.html
http://www.racingsportscars.com/chas...to/FLM-19.html

[Jonerz]

That clears it up somewhat, thanks Duff.

Chris

[WMUCarGuy]

Anyone else seeing a GT2 (or at least race-spec of some sort) Viper here? Those ovalish shapes near the bottom are dead giveaways for the body latches many modern sports racing cars use.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/23/i...nose-and-hood/

[Jonerz]

I think not for some reason. I always thought the hood latches were more circular in nature.

P.s. Glad to hear that Alex Job will still run a GTC car in addition to the Lotus. (From AGD above and Hindy on yesterday's MWM.)

Chris

[WMUCarGuy]

Originally Posted by Jonerz

I think not for some reason. I always thought the hood latches were more circular in nature.

P.s. Glad to hear that Alex Job will still run a GTC car in addition to the Lotus. (From AGD above and Hindy on yesterday's MWM.)

Chris

Here you go. Many of the cars on the grid use these now.

http://www.deftracing.com/aerocatch_hood_pins/index.htm

You can see them on the hood of the RLL BMW here.

[NightStalk3r]

AMR have used them on pretty much all their GT cars for the last 2-3 years.

[KlBD]

Conquest Endurance confirms an Oak-Pescarolo Judd with Martin Plowman and David Heinemeier-Hansson....grid filler anyone? Shame there isn't a stronger Pescarolo in the ALMS grid this year, would've been great to see United Autosports back, though they are focusing on their GT program this year it seems.

Edit: Also, it seems that the Conquest car is carrying Intersport's traditional #37...a return to the upper LMP ranks seems unlikely at this point, especially considering what was said about BAR1 taking some of their personnel...if they come back at all I suspect it'll be with the #89 LMPC, but I'm not exactly holding out hope for that one either.

[Fogelhund]

http://americanlemans.com/files/even...ring-Entry.pdf

Sebring entry. Expect a few additions.

[The Badger]

Ooohhh ..... they got Stephan Kane in the car with Dyson-Smith . Good choice .

[lms]

I hope those p2s not on the sebring list (black swan, starworks-alms, dempsey racing, ?libra) will be at least partial season alms entrants, like L5 was last year

[NightStalk3r]

Risi just announced they will not be at Sebring.

[KlBD]

Originally Posted by The Badger

Ooohhh ..... they got Stephan Kane in the car with Dyson-Smith . Good choice .

Holy crap, this car will go like the dickens! Hopefully it lasts!!

[FordCosworthPanoz]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Risi just announced they will not be at Sebring.

Wow.

[KA]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

Risi just announced they will not be at Sebring.

Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

Wow.

Wow indeed- As much as I hate to suggest it, with no plans for the rest of the season announced, does this mean Risi are done in ALMS for now at least....?