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Old 5 Sep 2006, 12:32 (Ref:1702290)   #26
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I think endurance racing.
It would not surprise me if he will race in Japanese Super GT next year.
I think so, ...
but during the TV coverage of Zandvoort, MotorsTV's speaker said that Norbert Haug want Jean to stay in DTM next year and they agreed to speak about that

wait and see
the good new is that Jean will certainly drive next year
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Old 5 Sep 2006, 13:08 (Ref:1702318)   #27
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Jean says on his website today that he met Norbert and was very pleased with his behavior.
Jean says that considering this seasons result and his good relationship with the team Persson he may stay one year more

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Je sais, je vous ai annoncé mon retrait du DTM Ã* la fin de la saison. Depuis ma décision et l’annonce correspondante, de nouveaux évènements sont cependant venus motiver une reprise de ma réflexion et des négociations avec Mercedes.

Norbert Haug m’a rencontré Ã* ce sujet et j’ai été très touché par sa démarche, par ses arguments et par les développements possibles dans le cadre d’une poursuite de ma carrière en DTM.

Norbert est un professionnel hors pair, que j’apprécie depuis le début de notre collaboration. Il a su me faire reconsidérer ma position. A la lumière de mes bons résultats, mais aussi des excellents rapports entre mon écurie Persson et moi-même, je suis aujourd’hui prêt Ã* réviser mon jugement et Ã* envisager d’effectuer une saison de plus en DTM avec Persson.
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Old 5 Sep 2006, 15:16 (Ref:1702414)   #28
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The DTM might return to Singen next year
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Old 5 Sep 2006, 18:14 (Ref:1702563)   #29
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The DTM might return to Singen next year
I can't remember the layout of this circuit but I am sure it's good news.
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Old 5 Sep 2006, 18:41 (Ref:1702593)   #30
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Basically it was a bunch of 90° corners + chicanes, the friday night practice was legendary

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Old 5 Sep 2006, 18:50 (Ref:1702607)   #31
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Basically it was a bunch of 90° corners + chicanes, the friday night practice was legendary

http://strecke.alemannenring.de/alem...der/index.html
http://strecke.alemannenring.de/alem...20ee131e11.jpg

Watching these pictures I can remember again the jumping 4WD DTM cars on the curbs.
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Old 8 Sep 2006, 16:44 (Ref:1705321)   #32
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ASM, Carlin, iSport and/or Team Essex (=John Nielsen) in DTM?

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Crack single-seater outfit ASM are among a host of potential new DTM entrants for next season, reveals this week's Autosport magazine.

ASM, currently leading the Formula Three Euroseries, are understood to be on the verge of concluding a deal to run a pair of Mercedes in the 2007 touring car series.

F3 points leader Paul di Resta and Alexandre Premat - who races for sister squad ART Grand Prix's GP2 team and helped win the inaugural A1 Grand Prix of Nations title for the ASM-run Team France - are expected to be the drivers.

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British F3 and World Series by Renault frontrunners Carlin Motorsport are also investigating options in the DTM/Euro F3 package.

"My ideal scenario would be running a DTM team and an F3 Euroseries team," said team boss Trevor Carlin at last weekend's Zandvoort meeting.

"It's unlikely we'd do Euroseries without a DTM programme."

Leading members of GP2 team iSport also checked out DTM possibilities at Zandvoort, while sportscar legend John Nielsen is considering moving his Team Essex operation from the Danish Touring Car Championship to the DTM next year.
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Carlin was already linked to a DTM entry a couple of months ago.
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Old 10 Sep 2006, 17:04 (Ref:1707016)   #33
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2006 Porsche Supercup Champion Richard Westbrook has been linked to a DTM drive as mentioned by Gareth Rees on today's coverage at Monza.
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Old 10 Sep 2006, 17:53 (Ref:1707069)   #34
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2006 Porsche Supercup Champion Richard Westbrook has been linked to a DTM drive as mentioned by Gareth Rees on today's coverage at Monza.
Mercedes?

And Gary Paffet, will he return to DTM?
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Old 10 Sep 2006, 21:51 (Ref:1707422)   #35
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Mercedes?

And Gary Paffet, will he return to DTM?
Good point, if Hamilton pinches the drive I think his Formula One ticket has effectively been stolen.

Though moving on is better than moving back, maybe Champcar or GP2
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Old 11 Sep 2006, 11:31 (Ref:1707841)   #36
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Good point, if Hamilton pinches the drive I think his Formula One ticket has effectively been stolen.

Though moving on is better than moving back, maybe Champcar or GP2
IMO DTM is not a move back (except if he gets a 2 year old car).
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Old 11 Sep 2006, 18:33 (Ref:1708178)   #37
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hmmm, now that Schumacher has announced his retirement from F1, I wonder if we could see him race in the '07 DTM in a MB?? -- he previously raced a 190E before.

Or could he made race director for Alfa for their '07 DTM season with the 159s???

yes, all of the above is pure speculation, but wouldn't that be interesting!!
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Old 11 Sep 2006, 18:46 (Ref:1708192)   #38
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I don't think we will see Schumi back in a racing series.

But I hope he returns in a scarlet Alfa Romeo (WTCC or DTM).
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Old 11 Sep 2006, 20:38 (Ref:1708300)   #39
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hmmm, now that Schumacher has announced his retirement from F1, I wonder if we could see him race in the '07 DTM in a MB?? -- he previously raced a 190E before.

Or could he made race director for Alfa for their '07 DTM season with the 159s???
Unfortunately it seems he will continue working in Ferrari. A shame, he would be a real addition for touring car world.

However I didn´t lose my hopes.
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I wonder if there are rule provisions or if Audi/MB will allow '04 cars to race in '07??? They would be going on 4 years?
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I wonder if there are rule provisions or if Audi/MB will allow '04 cars to race in '07??? They would be going on 4 years?
Do they need the '04 cars?

The last few years both Mercedes and Audi builded 4 new cars. So without the '04 cars there will be 12 cars available (2 more than this year):
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Do they need the '04 cars?

The last few years both Mercedes and Audi builded 4 new cars. So without the '04 cars there will be 12 cars available (2 more than this year):
4x '07 cars
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4x '05 cars
From what I gather with the DTM/WTCC, it's not about if they need 04 cars, it's will they allow them or sell them to independents. If they sell them cheap enough, I'm sure there could be F3000 or other teams that could run them. What about the Ruch brothers who used to run the Mustangs? It would be nice to have them race again?
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I doubt someone like the Ruch brothers could afford to race in the DTM we have now, even if they could buy/lease/rent a 3 year old car cheap they would still need at least 15 mechanics for a competitive pitstop plus several engineers, thats probably 4 times more than the Ruch's had back in the days.

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Conclusion: DTM was way better in the old days
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Just wait for next year. If anything this season shows that last years cars can be competitive on occasion with right team and driver. And certainly the likes of ASM, Carlin, Flash engineering and iSport are the right teams.

It could be a really interesting turn of fortunes for DTM.
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My guess is they will have to change regulations dramatically to survive.
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Dirk Müller and Mike Rockenfeller are suggested like possible drivers for Audi in 2007. Source is Auto hebdo Sport.
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Conclusion: DTM was way better in the old days

Current WTCC cars with 2.5l 350-400bhp engines, larger tyres and sexier bodywork is what the DTM should be in future years.

Powerful, production based touring cars.

Lets admit it, the current DTM isn't touring car racing.

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Lets admit it, the current DTM isn't touring car racing.
Like anyone cares The car are spectacular, the racing is very good and the fans are going to the tracks or watch the tv coverage. So everyone is happy touring cars or not.
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The manufactuers are 'paying' millions of Euros to pay for free tickets and massive promotions, as a two manufactuer series doesn't compare to the 80's/90's Group A days.

Spectacular 'touring cars' should comprise of packed grids, bumper to bumper racing, multi manufactuers, an excess of power and production derived chassis.

Not sparse fields comprising of purpose built prototypes clothed in saloon bodywork.

IMO, the current DTM is financially unviable, without Mercedes it would be no more.

With only Mercedes and one other manufactuer it will soon become stale.

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