March 73B - 74B - 75B - 76B - 77B - Page 5

Teretonga · 19 Jul 2004, 00:17 (Ref:1581596)

Bryan
when you talk about your 74B are you talking about your ex Brett Riley car or another car?

Bryan Miller · 19 Jul 2004, 00:41 (Ref:1581598)

My brother Kevin owns what turned out to be the ex. Brett Riley 772/77B .
My 74B has never been near N.Z.

Bryan.

Neptune · 19 Jul 2004, 23:24 (Ref:1581600)

But didn't Brett run that car in UK. Did he then take it back to NZ after the 77 British Atlantic season?

allenbrown · 30 Jul 2004, 19:06 (Ref:1581614)

I can't be certain where to post this so I suppose this thread is best.

I found this in a newly acquired Motoring News and it might connect up some Marchs.

Motoring News 12 May 1977 p22: Paul Gardner has the ex-Steve Choularton March 73B for Libre racing. It is now to 742 spec but will have 752 bodywork.

His team-mate will be John Walker who has the "ex-David Purley/Graham Perry (Harrison) Atlantic engined March 742".

I hope that is useful.

Allen

Chris Townsend · 2 Aug 2004, 09:13 (Ref:1581616)

Allen

Knew about the John Walker car, which was chassis 23 [Once I got over the possibility that it was Purley's 722 that Perry raced]. He had that in 76 as well. The Gardner info is new. I think that Choularton may have kept the car for a couple of years rather than selling it in 74.

Chris

Jeremy Jackson · 2 Aug 2004, 09:44 (Ref:1581618)

Anthony Hansford raced the "ex Choularton/Crawford" 73B as a 732 (with STP livery and a Cosworth BDG!) in HSCC and occasional BOSS events around 95-98. Since he races an Arrows/Footwork now, not sure if he still has the March.

Chris Townsend · 23 Nov 2004, 18:51 (Ref:1581640)

Apologies, got my Pattersons in a twist!
Jas - March 722-73B [Renoir International Racing]
Jack - Wimhurst in Atlantic at much the same time

Chris

Bryan Miller · 1 Dec 2004, 02:56 (Ref:1581658)

Back on page 19 , when Adam Ferrington listed all his chassis numbers , he advised Bev Bond in Harry Stiller March 73B [ 74B U1 ]for the Oulton Park meeting 5/5/1974 .

This is very strange, as this should be 74B-12 , but as the entry is for a March 73B , not 74B , is this perhaps a ring -in , as I have a photo of what is probably this car , Ref. Autosport Feb. 28 1974 p. 18 , which shows Bev Bond in a spot of bother at Brands , '' in the car he campaingned briefly at the end of last year '', however it is all decked out in the Custom Made/ Harry Stiller racing colours.
At the Oulton Park meeting did they perhaps run this car instead of the 1974 car , due to the 74 car not having the side rad. long nose conversion completed.??

Chris ,this 74B-U1 chassis plate seems to have been fitted to all manner of Marchs , is this not a plate associated with Val Mussetti.?

What was the identity of this Bev Bond 73B. Any clues.

Bryan.

Chris Townsend · 1 Dec 2004, 05:21 (Ref:1581660)

Bryan

I agree it is odd, and have been puzzling over it since Adam published that information.
The U1 suffix on the plate simply means [I think] that it is a hors series development model. [There were often two of these, U1 and U2 for any works build run] One of Musetti's cars may have been 742-U1, but I'm beginning to think he just had a 742 tub and the actual plates, which probably were not attached to the cars, were for two far earlier models.

British teams often ended up with the U cars because they were cheap ways of getting a new car, since the works had already had considerable mileage out of them. [Both the kosher March 75Bs that appear in Britain, for example, are U cars - Derek Cook and Ray Mallock]

Chris

Bryan Miller · 1 Dec 2004, 10:00 (Ref:1581665)

Chris , where did the Bev Bond 73B [ 74-U1 ] come from and go to ??

Dan Rear · 1 Dec 2004, 10:30 (Ref:1581667)

Chris, was Ray M's 75B really a 'kosher' car ? I thought it was based on the ex-Laffite 742. Didn't he keep this car thru' 76 after his 'adventures' with the wonderful Lola T450 ?

Bryan Miller · 6 Jan 2005, 06:01 (Ref:1581710)

Jim,
Re your March sighting , I reckon that the plate is non original , and somebody at some time had the car and the chassis plate was missing , and found the tub number and made a new plate with the tub number as the chassis no. not knowing or caring that these two numbers never were the same , my 74B-12 is on tub 732-026 , and I am sure all the F3 cars used the same tubs as well .
If we knew the history of the car , maybe we could figure it all out.

Regards Bryan.

**John Turner** · 25 May 2006, 19:44 (Ref:1618914)

Ian Rimmer's 76B at Silverstone, 21 May, 2006. Entered in the Derek Bell Trophy race it didn't get to race as the appallingly wet conditions were deemed too dangerous and the race was cancelled. (I believe this car would not have raced anyway, in any conditions other than dry, as I understand that no wet weather tyres were available for it.)

Chris Townsend · 26 May 2006, 09:37 (Ref:1619331)

John

Lovely looking car, don't suppose you got the plate number?

Chris

**John Turner** · 26 May 2006, 09:50 (Ref:1619339)

No, sorry, Chris; it was latecomer, and I just snatched this pic, as I was passing through on a sweep up!

Dan Rear · 26 May 2006, 12:43 (Ref:1619444)

John, whats the red no. 67 behind the March, looks like a B25/B27?

(Dan, yes - see here:- http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....3&postcount=14 - JT)

driftwood · 28 May 2006, 11:57 (Ref:1620873)

Quote:

Anthony Hansford raced the "ex Choularton/Crawford" 73B as a 732 (with STP livery and a Cosworth BDG!) in HSCC and occasional BOSS events around 95-98. Since he races an Arrows/Footwork now, not sure if he still has the March.

FYI
this car was sold to usa 4 years ago i saw it 2 years ago at BRICS
Tony bought the car as a wreck & restored it
the true story is the car was 732 Coulon car but was rebadged by march for 74 season as 73B car hence tony running it as 73B#1 ( i believe dont quote me) but it was 732#13 semi works car hence his STP livery

Quote:

"ex-David Purley/Graham Perry (Harrison) Atlantic engined March 742".

was this chassis 30 team harper car
if so its racing in uk and was raced originally by Bernard de Dryver he was at BH last month and actually came to look at the car whilst i was talking to the current owner

Quote:

There were often two of these, U1 and U2 for any works build run] One of Musetti's cars may have been 742-U1, but I'm beginning to think he just had a 742 tub and the actual plates, which probably were not attached to the cars, were for two far earlier models

741 U1 & 2 are in uk- same owner having them rebuilt to run

Quote:

Chris, was Ray M's 75B really a 'kosher' car ? I thought it was based on the ex-Laffite 742.

Lafttite raced the BP livery car with Martini modified nose- that car has been in UK 6 years & racing now n then

ianr · 31 May 2006, 13:57 (Ref:1623823)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Townsend

John

Lovely looking car, don't suppose you got the plate number?

Chris

Hi Chris,

It's an ex Canadian car, with a log book. It has a chassis plate 76B-12.

Ian Rimmer

Chris Townsend · 31 May 2006, 15:34 (Ref:1623898)

Ian

Welcome to the forum. Would love to know more about the car.
At the moment I have the following on 76Bs

1: Ian Scheckter [though this number also attributed to Hansen's car by a rather suspect source
3: Gilles Villeneuve [though used two other cars in season]. Now owned by Jon Norman
6: Price Cobb
14: Shierson [Brambilla at trois rivieres]
17: Graeme Lawrence
19: Dave Charlton
20: Shierson spare not used until NZ 1977

Chassis 8 exists in US but don't know who with or whose it was

and a great many unknowns

In 76 season

Bobby Rahal [two cars, one he owned and the other belonging to Shierson]
Tom Pumpelly [also used by Villeneuve]
Villeneuve [spare car]
Cliff Hansen
John Mortensen
Seb Barone
Herman Gugliotta
Marty Loft [owned by Shierson]
Bobby Brown
Tom Outcault

Dan Rear · 1 Jun 2006, 09:40 (Ref:1624445)

I suspect Ian's may be the first ever real 76B to race in Britain. Not a bad record 30 years after they were made here !!!

driftwood · 1 Jun 2006, 09:59 (Ref:1624457)

fred goddard has 76b with mazda in it he ran in ZA many moons ago ha dit here for over 12 years but its never ran

Dan Rear · 25 Jul 2006, 12:33 (Ref:1664131)

Without trawling back, what do we know of the Norman Dickson '74B'. I recall speaking in summer '76 to one of his mechanics, who, I distinctly remember, described it as a '72B'. I presume, knowing what we know now, it was actually a 722, or maybe not ...

Bryan Miller · 25 Jul 2006, 22:21 (Ref:1664547)

76B-20 is for sale www.racecarsdirect.com , stated 12 races from new , car is ex Ken Smith and is still in N.Z.

Re tubs , 75B-8 is narrow tub , albeit on it's replacement tub from the 1977 prang , the replacement tub is a 773 tub number.

Bryan.

Chris Townsend · 26 Jul 2006, 08:52 (Ref:1664769)

Bryan

By 1975 I think that Atlantic Marches shared tubs with the F3 series. Certainly did in 1976 and 77. So rebuilding on a 773 tub makes sense

Chris

allenbrown · 28 Jul 2006, 20:40 (Ref:1666832)

Ted was most kind today and allowed me to borrow the following pictures so I could scan, post and return them.

Friswell's 73B at Silverstone June 1974

Musetti's "74B" at Snetterton March 1975

Musetti's "752" at Mallory March 1976

Mather's "742" or "752" at Silverstone Apr 1977

Allen

PS Met Andrew at Silverstone today and John will be there tomorrow. Anyone else planning to go?

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