team japan hits wall hard

[Woolley]

I think Dino missed the gravel, but I could be wrong. I'd forgotton about Carbone (yes, I think it was him) which proves the point. Every safety feature is only as good as the accident that involves it, and it's impossible to have one that suits everything. That's before you start to think of the different requirements of saloons and bikes, all of which have to be taken into account.

[rustyfan]

Originally Posted by PVDA

On the car side of things, it has almost eliminated cars hitting walls but there are now more roll overs as cars try to go through a gravel trap sideways.

Rollovers, as long as you don't roll into something solid, is easily one of the safest ways to have a big crash, since the car is allowed to shed parts, and thus energy, away from the driver through a long series of big and small impacts.

Originally Posted by Paddockman

Sorry to be a purist but tarmac run off areas just ruin circuits completely, giving the driver an easy option of running wide if he overcommits. I know saftey wise they are a good idea but just how far down this road are we going to go!! Also I don't know about anyone else but I think circuits like that just look like giant car parks and come across as completely sterile and faceless, Bring back grass!!

Amen to that. The safety-thinking today, within car-racing anyhow, is more like a hysteria rather than based on rational thinking.

[1200Datto27]

Originally Posted by rustyfan

Rollovers, as long as you don't roll into something solid, is easily one of the safest ways to have a big crash, since the car is allowed to shed parts, and thus energy, away from the driver through a long series of big and small impacts.

I think that what PVDA is getting at is that since they replaced the grassed areas with gravel, it has changed from having a simple spin if you go off on those corner, to now either getting bogged or rolling the car, so by attempting to make it safer, they have actually increased the risks (and that is with mentioning the new pit exit that feeds straight out onto the racing line in one of the fastests corners in Australia)

[PVDA]

yep.

What Datto said.

[Suze]

Whilst not trying to detract from the "badness" (if there is such a word!) of the accident, there's an advert that caught my eye on page 30 of AS - pic of the Japanese car and the byline "and not a drop of fuel spelt" advertising the fuel cell company. Good one.

[nickyf1]

well, a1 gp has been very lively in terms of cars leaving the ground an crashing heavily.

[Mr Jinxx]

Too lively. It's slowed down the arrival of all the teams' 2nd cars!! Not now due until Dubai at the earliest

[F.O.F.]

Originally Posted by Suze

Whilst not trying to detract from the "badness" (if there is such a word!) of the accident, there's an advert that caught my eye on page 30 of AS - pic of the Japanese car and the byline "and not a drop of fuel spelt" advertising the fuel cell company. Good one.

i just saw that ad....brilliant

[speedfreek]

just got 2 add......did anyone think befor they installed tarmac run off that wet tarmac is pretty damn slippy, and though i dont like motor cycling that much, a motorcyclist is gunna have a nasty landing if he falls off on a tarmac runoff

[strider]

Shimoda will be back racing for Team Japan in Malaysia this weekend, but doesn't want to see any photos or footage of his accident at Eastern Creek. I can understand that...