Orange disc

[JimW]

Now, without looking it up, who knows what a Day-Glo Orange disc next to the competition number on the sides of a vehicle means?

Jim

[EvilPumpkin]

Unless you're in Ireland and at a hill climb.... in which case it means something else entirely!

[Sticker Rub]

I've always understood it to mean it's a methanol fuelled car but maybe I've fallen for a trick question?

[allanh]

With all your years of experience Jim, i would have thought that you might have known that without having to ask!!!!!!!

[DaveW]

For those who like reading the blue book see E.12.13.5, where it is required for vehicles running "non-pump fuel". Normally this tends to mean the vehicles will be running methanol or ethanol.

[Teletubby]

you weren't supposed to look it up!

[DaveW]

Probably need to get out more!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by DaveW

For those who like reading the blue book see E.12.13.5, where it is required for vehicles running "non-pump fuel".

You could have waited a few days!

I'd have been wrong - but fortunately my natural reaction in these situations is to check, which I did before I read Jim's post!

Now let's see who's next with another common misconception.....

[sydney herbert]

Jim I think it is when the car is running on methanol SYD.

[Sheila M]

I voted for it meaning the car is running on methanol

[devon kev]

As most hillclimbers should know its methanol fuelled cars

[Andrew Gunnell]

My guess is that it is methanol.

[blackx]

In hillclimbing we take it to mean methanol fueled(or methanol mixed with ?) but is the true definition non-pump fuel ?

[Robin_D]

Yep that's an easy one I think. Throw some grass at it if not sure. I'm finding that they are becoming less and less on circuit though?

[EvilPumpkin]

Originally Posted by EvilPumpkin

Unless you're in Ireland and at a hill climb.... in which case it means something else entirely!

As I understand it (and I've not done hillclimbing in Ireland) from our Rescue Crew Chief, an orange disc on a car in this class here means a dual drive.

Or it does sometimes. But not always......

[PVDA]

Down here in the colonies (Australia) Alcohol fueled race cars (not drivers) have a round red sticker with a white capital A and a white circle around it.

It's usually placed on each side as close to the number as the vehicle design allows.

Alternative fuels aren't that common here yet as we favour pump fuels so it's usually only found on historic vehicles.

Mind you we have a large fleet of road vehicles that run on LPG and we have a small red sticker on our registration plate to show that similar to the photo below to let emergency ervices know there's an up to 100 litre gas bottle mounted inside the car somewhere.




Photo's from GM-H Media site.

They are about to introduce a similar (I think) green label to be placed on Hybrid vehicles so that emergency service personel will be able to indentify the fact it will have lots of batteries on board and very quiet electric engines to be aware of.

[rescue dude]

Nice question Jim. It's surprising the amount of people who got it wrong.

[JimW]

Originally Posted by rescue dude

Nice question Jim. It's surprising the amount of people who got it wrong.

Confession time. I would have given the same answer as most people until I read an MSA press release (sad - me? I deny it).

This is dealing with the current hoo ha over fuel in rallying.

http://www.msauk.org/site/wbs/news/V...262&category=0

I intend to come back to the issues which a strictly correct interpretation of the current regulation presents us with, when voting has died down.

Regards

Jim

[chezza]

I voted on a car running on methanol as have always been told thats what it is...but...I could be wrong.

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by rescue dude

Nice question Jim. It's surprising the amount of people who got it wrong.

...and nobody got it right before the correct answer had been posted!

[rescue dude]

I would have posted earlier had i seen it.

I actually voted before i read any posts.

[blackx]

Originally Posted by EvilPumpkin

As I understand it (and I've not done hillclimbing in Ireland) from our Rescue Crew Chief, an orange disc on a car in this class here means a dual drive.

Or it does sometimes. But not always......

We tend to use a 7 or a 9 immediately before the competition number to identify dual driven cars i.e 119 becomes 719 or 919..

And I also voted before I read any posts but the meaning most seem to know isnt always the true book definition as has been shown..

[Lord Summerisle]

how long has Bio Ethanol been around?

Is it only recently that the definition changed from 'methanol' to 'any non-pump' ? tho im sure i read in a Startline mag that Bio was only allowed in Touring Cars last year under their own rules, but no other series... tho that seems to have changed this year with the Aston Martin team running a Bio fuel car in this years Brit GT

[Woolley]

The thing is, it's only needed for the fuels we need to be wary of, in other words Methanol, because of it's fire properties. If it doesn't mean that, then it should.

[blackx]

Originally Posted by Lord Summerisle

how long has Bio Ethanol been around?

Is it only recently that the definition changed from 'methanol' to 'any non-pump' ?

I think its always been defined as such

Though ,as always, I stand to be corrected