Mini racing in the south east. - Page 55

**BertMk2** · 11 Mar 2010, 20:35 (Ref:2649833)

I'm still a bit confused as to what was supposedly illegal on the Minis last season?

Copperbottom · 11 Mar 2010, 20:42 (Ref:2649839)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BertMk2

I'm still a bit confused as to what was supposedly illegal on the Minis last season?

I think it was the boot floors

although it may of been the inner wings (which may only be modified to allow for the induction system)

**BertMk2** · 11 Mar 2010, 20:44 (Ref:2649844)

The boot floors were legal to the wording of the regs though weren't they? (hence the wording being changed for this year?)

Copperbottom · 11 Mar 2010, 21:14 (Ref:2649871)

Dunno then, ask Graham to clarify.

mig · 11 Mar 2010, 21:19 (Ref:2649876)

So were the inner wings.If they were illegal I would have thought that the series scrutineer whould have pulled them up.

graham bahr · 11 Mar 2010, 21:29 (Ref:2649884)

the rules stated no modifications to the unitary construction but did allow minor modifications to boot floor to accommodate a fuel cell, they went on to specifically state "minor modifications" did not allow the removal of entire boot floor.

replacing an entire boot floor with alloy or composite clearly falls foul of the above as judged by most people and more importantantly the scruitieers.

whats gone before has gone, its time to move on

**BertMk2** · 11 Mar 2010, 21:54 (Ref:2649908)

Ah right so it was the "minor modification" subjective bit they fell foul of then? Because techincally having a carbon floor is a "replacement" not a "removal" so it was ok on that side of things.

Still, as you say - on with the racing

Robert Morris · 11 Mar 2010, 22:44 (Ref:2649941)

Our boot floors were only removed enough to fit a carbon moulding to fit a square flat bottom fuel tank.The metal floor that covers the rear subframe was still insitue,
And as for being told by an other its a saftey issue cant be true, our cars are built to a high spec so as they can compete in the mini miglia championship.
Yep on with the racing.

Rod Birley · 11 Mar 2010, 23:08 (Ref:2649951)

As I said still Ok for the Quaife intermarque.

Minicross424 · 12 Mar 2010, 07:32 (Ref:2650120)

Quote:

Originally Posted by graham bahr

the rules stated no modifications to the unitary construction but did allow minor modifications to boot floor to accommodate a fuel cell, they went on to specifically state "minor modifications" did not allow the removal of entire boot floor.

replacing an entire boot floor with alloy or composite clearly falls foul of the above as judged by most people and more importantantly the scruitieers.

whats gone before has gone, its time to move on

Yea and my boot floor has not been touched so perhaps check facts first before calling my mini illegal.
On with the racing.

greenamex2 · 12 Mar 2010, 09:17 (Ref:2650168)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod Birley

As I said still Ok for the Quaife intermarque.

And Classic Thunder.

kjw · 12 Mar 2010, 15:24 (Ref:2650376)

The rule states that "FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOUNTING oil and fuel tanks and pumps the boot floor in-between the vehicle chassis rails and rearward of the rear axle line may be modified". So if the fuel pump (and most arn't) and the the fuel tank is not mounted on or supported by the boot floor then surely composite boot floors can
be used.

Just exploring any loop holes.

Chris_w · 12 Mar 2010, 15:51 (Ref:2650387)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjw

The rule states that "FOR THE PURPOSE OF MOUNTING oil and fuel tanks and pumps the boot floor in-between the vehicle chassis rails and rearward of the rear axle line may be modified". So if the fuel pump (and most arn't) and the the fuel tank is not mounted on or supported by the boot floor then surely composite boot floors can
be used.

Just exploring any loop holes.

That's last years regs Ken. For this year a whole new paragraph has been added specifically banning non-steel floors.

Copperbottom · 12 Mar 2010, 16:59 (Ref:2650448)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris_w

That's last years regs Ken. For this year a whole new paragraph has been added specifically banning non-steel floors.

The rule is for ALL cars and has also affected other cars,not just Minis.

graham bahr · 12 Mar 2010, 17:23 (Ref:2650460)

Quote:

Yea and my boot floor has not been touched so perhaps check facts first before calling my mini illegal.
On with the racing.

as you never took part in DMN you werent considered with regards to the above

Robert Morris · 12 Mar 2010, 18:59 (Ref:2650526)

Car 50 been on the rollers well pleased with the power well worth changing the cam

Robert Morris · 12 Mar 2010, 19:05 (Ref:2650535)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Copperbottom

The rule is for ALL cars and has also affected other cars,not just Minis.

As this is a mini thread we are only intrested in minis

Cujo · 12 Mar 2010, 19:09 (Ref:2650543)

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Originally Posted by Robert Morris

Car 50 been on the rollers well pleased with the power well worth changing the cam

What'll she do then Mister?

Were you at Gerald's yesterday Robert?

I have finally booked mine in to try and get rid of the mystery misfire, so hopefully all sorted for SEMSEC up to 1400cc class on April 10.

Anyone else doing it?

Robert Morris · 12 Mar 2010, 19:12 (Ref:2650546)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujo

What'll she do then Mister?

Were you at Gerald's yesterday Robert?

I have finally booked mine in to try and get rid of the mystery misfire, so hopefully all sorted for SEMSEC up to 1400cc class on April 10.

Anyone else doing it?

If i get my msa license i might but will come and watch if i dont.
yes been at geralds got a big no.

Copperbottom · 12 Mar 2010, 19:16 (Ref:2650549)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Morris

As this is a mini thread we are only intrested in minis

Just trying to stop you all from feeling victimised

Minicross424 · 13 Mar 2010, 09:09 (Ref:2650872)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cujo

What'll she do then Mister?

Were you at Gerald's yesterday Robert?

I have finally booked mine in to try and get rid of the mystery misfire, so hopefully all sorted for SEMSEC up to 1400cc class on April 10.

Anyone else doing it?

Yep im booked in Cujo so see you there!

Rod Birley · 13 Mar 2010, 12:28 (Ref:2650988)

Looks like no Minis are travelling up to Cadwell then for intermarque (with tin tops)

Minicross424 · 13 Mar 2010, 12:34 (Ref:2650991)

Sorry Rod it nothing against the barc its just budget this year.
I will be lucky if i leave kent this season but never say never.
I do fancy Rockingham later in the year

Robert Morris · 13 Mar 2010, 12:52 (Ref:2651000)

Secondly im having to pick and choose my rounds a bit this year as having a baby on the way means budget is tight!
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So when the baby due?

graham bahr · 13 Mar 2010, 13:04 (Ref:2651005)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Morris

Car 50 been on the rollers well pleased with the power well worth changing the cam

obviously things have changed over the years as i recall migs all had to use the same cam, thinking a bit more i remember when they were all 1000cc max

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